I got the legal gear I need but don't know how to use it.

[stankdadank]

Age: 26
Height:5'10"
Weight: 195
Body fat% I got a little flab, but my bike rides to work and back will take care of that. I'm pretty solid.
Training history: 12 years, since I was 14, wrestled in high school, lifted wheights seriously for about 5 years now.
Cycle history: Andro cycle when I was 19-good--, D-bol/winni_V only, cycle twice, in last few years, and it wasn't good.
Goals: Bulk up mostly, tone up as well. I get plenty of cardio. Hit the weights hard on my lunch break.

What I'm on right now,

testra flex, and methyl flex 2 weeks into it. going well, also take one dose of tribullus terrestrus a day. one to two winni-v lozenges a day. Wondering If I should throw Chrysin in the mix. Don't want to do a lot, just one dose of it a day, not sure if that's useless in only one dose a day. Same concern with the tribulus, that only one dose a day is useless. Going to throw in one
"1-AD" (1-androstenediol) a day starting next week.

Other than that I have a bottle of "Off Cycle" bottle and a half of D-bol, Still got the plenty of winni-v, stuff makes me a little crazy though, good for the gym, kinda weird for everything else. Got a bottle of "17-alpha oxo nolone" got a bottle and a half of chrysin. Got a bottle of "T-Bomb II". a bottle of Tribex as well.

Any advice for PCT with what I have? Any advice for what to do with that poutpouri of prohormones I have?

[Darkhorse]

testra flex, and methyl flex 2 weeks into it. going well, also take one dose of tribullus terrestrus a day. one to two winni-v lozenges a day. Wondering If I should throw Chrysin in the mix.

Goddamn..Sounds like you're a kid in the candy store wanting to dip his finger in every suggary treat.

also take one dose of tribullus terrestrus a day.

With the grocery list of stuff your on now, one dose of trib is completely useless. Save it for when you're on PCT.

one to two winni-v lozenges a day...half of D-bol

Are you talking about an actual steroid, or that bullshit supplement company that sells regular supplements with steroid names?? legal steroids FYI, their herbs now

Going to throw in one
"1-AD" (1-androstenediol) a day starting next week.

Hope you're not thinking about doing ONE SERVING of 1AD per day! It's pretty strong and also a prohormone. If I were you, I'd save it to run by itself at a later date. "Throwing" it into your witches brew you got going will probably make you flacid for a year. For God's sake, don't "throw" in nothing else..Especially something like 1AD.

Got a bottle of "T-Bomb II".

IMO, throw it away...Better yet, I'd trade it with your friends for some creatine or something. Again, it's just herbs. Just think, it's a featured product at GNC, so what's that tell you?

Any advice for what to do with that poutpouri of prohormones I have?

It sounds like you aware that you're mixing a bunch of prohormones together. They shouldn't be all mixed together at suboptimal dosages. I'd use the 1AD by itself after you've stopped your PCT for a few weeks (better yet months). The other stuff I'm not familiar with, but I know that if "product x" is supposed to by taken with say, 600 mg per day...And you are doing 200 mg each of "products w, x, y, z"..You're really wasting your money..And more to the point, fucking up your body.

Any advice for PCT with what I have?

NOLVADEX! Again, trade in your "off cycle" since it's herbal. You need something very strong, especially with the methylated shit you're taking. Liver protectant is also advised. Off cycle most definately won't be enough for all the shit you're taking. Go to AG-Guys and order 2 bottles of their nolva. AG-GUYS

Originally Posted by AG-GUYS

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It is not correct that Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate) reduces levels of estrogen: rather, it blocks estrogen from estrogen receptors and, in those tissues where it is an antagonist, causes the receptor to do nothing.

If I come off as a dick, then I did my job.

[hrdgain81]

Just from the title I would think your using stuff from impact nutrition. This company is the biggest scam in the supp. industry. Dont use them anymore, all they sell is over priced garbage.

[stankdadank]

Thank you guys all so much for the assistance. You guys are so helpful, and I don't have one person I know in real life that is into any of this, So this stuff I have, the "17-alpha oxo nolone" is an anti-aromatase. Can I PCT with that? can I mix it with tribbulus or chrysin? Please don't get frustrated with me, I just wanna maximise what I have I know they put tribulus in just about every herbal; Should I drop the Winni-V out of my testra flex, and methyl flex cycle.
Are herbals really that bad? I was under the impression herbals are less effective, but less harsh on your body.And what about the off-cycle for PCT?
I take saw palmetto complexes, and milk thistle complexes and I have my diet down like a science, that part is solid, lots's of raw veggies, egg, whey, hemp, and rice protiens, glutamine, aminos. I'm no newbie to wheightlifting. I got my first workout set when I was 5. Thanks again for your input, my body is depending on it, scared shitless of the gynocemastia. NOLVADEX, Is 17-alpha oxo nolone an herbal form of nolva? I thought any anti-aromatase is good for PCT. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you...

[stankdadank]

Nolva---with a needle, i'm too much of a pussy for the needles, it's a line I'm not gonna cross.

[Darkhorse]

I got my first workout set when I was 5.

If you weren't old enough to buy a pack of smokes, then it don't count. At 5 years old, I still couldn't say, "periodization"..

Are herbals really that bad?

Could a billion chinese people be wrong??

scared shitless of the gynocemastia.

If you keep mixing a dash of 1AD here, sprinkle a little winnie on top supersetted with chrysin and a handfull of other things you're taking and you'll have a sweet looking pair. Just be sure to put out over at the 'member pics' section!

I don't have one person I know in real life that is into any of this

A very good reason why all this shit is BANNED now is because people spend their Christmas bonus on a few bottles of the latest and greatest from the supplement store without doing research into how bad it is..

What's your liver protectant that you're running with all those?..

[Darkhorse]

Nolva---with a needle, i'm too much of a pussy for the needles, it's a line I'm not gonna cross.

NO! No needle bro..You use a medicine dropper and put it in your mouth. To be honest with you, you are in dire need to do some research..Ironically, you'll find out rather quickly that sticking yourself in the glute with steroids is a lot better for you than what you're doing now!..A lot!

[stankdadank]

My liver would thank me if I did, I'm also an alcoholic.

[Darkhorse]

Originally Posted by stankdadank

My liver would thank me if I did, I'm also an alcoholic.

Good grief!..I'm telling you, really start looking into some creatine or protein. Doing all these prohormones combined with all the alcohol is dangerous. Shit, I'm the same age as you, and I've made it naturally to 255 without that shit. You probably have better genetics than I do too. Try going in the training forum and post your routine instead. I bet there's a lot we can fix that'll help you infinately more than combining 4 different cycles into one big mess!

[Darkhorse]

BTW, you still haven't said which supplement company makes your winnie and dbol..Is it SDI LABS?