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shmadufa · 01-25-2007, 08:35 PM

Pheraplex (questionable, could be a steroid), 1AD, 4AD, DHEA(Very weak), m1t (Very strong). is this right? do you need PTC for DHEA?

hrdgain81 · 01-26-2007, 05:41 AM

Pheraplex is a steroid.

DHEA is debatable, however, its kind of a moot point. Some people use it IN thier pct, others superdose it and cycle it. Personally, its a very weak compound, and it costs too much IMO to dose high enough to see any real effects. There are better options out there.

1ad - converts to 1test
4ad - converts to test
m1t - amazingly potent, very harsh on your body.

biosize · 01-26-2007, 07:30 AM

from what i see , the Pheraplex is like SD (superdrol ) very nice stuff
and if i am not wrong its PH not a steroid .

hrdgain81 · 01-26-2007, 07:47 AM

Both Pheraplex (17a-methyl-etioallochan-2-ene-17-b-ol) and SD are orally active steroids.

These are not precursors (ProHormones) they dont need to convert once in the body.

biosize · 01-28-2007, 03:46 AM

yep , no andro
i confused is with M1A

that have
17-hydroxy-6-alpha methyl-ethyletiochalon-3,20 dione

shmadufa · 01-28-2007, 08:45 AM

whats the difference between a steriod, prohormone, and a test booster. i also saw the word "andro," what is that?

hrdgain81 · 01-29-2007, 06:33 AM

The differece between a steriod and a prohormone is that prohormones do not have anabolic or androgenic properties by themselves. They need to bind with other molecules once in the body to have those effects.

"Test boosters" and I put that in quotes, because many of the products that claim to be test boosters have no real effect on overall test levels. These products can be discontinued at any time without fear of testicular shut down.

biosize · 01-29-2007, 09:21 AM

andro 1 step before test

01-25-2007, 08:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
shmadufa Rank: Member Experience: 3-5 Years Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 79 Gender:	some prohormones and questions Pheraplex (questionable, could be a steroid), 1AD, 4AD, DHEA(Very weak), m1t (Very strong). is this right? do you need PTC for DHEA?

01-26-2007, 05:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
hrdgain81 Rank: Light Heavyweight Experience: 5-7 Years Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,534	Pheraplex is a steroid. DHEA is debatable, however, its kind of a moot point. Some people use it IN thier pct, others superdose it and cycle it. Personally, its a very weak compound, and it costs too much IMO to dose high enough to see any real effects. There are better options out there. 1ad - converts to 1test 4ad - converts to test m1t - amazingly potent, very harsh on your body.
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01-26-2007, 07:47 AM	#4 (permalink)
hrdgain81 Rank: Light Heavyweight Experience: 5-7 Years Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,534	Both Pheraplex (17a-methyl-etioallochan-2-ene-17-b-ol) and SD are orally active steroids. These are not precursors (ProHormones) they dont need to convert once in the body.
	hrdgain81's Sig:"Its clear why the journey was so painful, metamorphosis, this is what I changed to, and god I'm so thankful" - Nas APT ProWristStraps www.TheLocalSpots.com Built for young professionals on a budget. AIM: TLSCEOMI

01-29-2007, 06:33 AM	#7 (permalink)
hrdgain81 Rank: Light Heavyweight Experience: 5-7 Years Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,534	The differece between a steriod and a prohormone is that prohormones do not have anabolic or androgenic properties by themselves. They need to bind with other molecules once in the body to have those effects. "Test boosters" and I put that in quotes, because many of the products that claim to be test boosters have no real effect on overall test levels. These products can be discontinued at any time without fear of testicular shut down.
	hrdgain81's Sig:"Its clear why the journey was so painful, metamorphosis, this is what I changed to, and god I'm so thankful" - Nas APT ProWristStraps www.TheLocalSpots.com Built for young professionals on a budget. AIM: TLSCEOMI

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01-26-2007, 07:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
biosize Rank: New Member Experience: 5-7 Years Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: RUSSIA Posts: 13 Country: Gender:	from what i see , the Pheraplex is like SD (superdrol ) very nice stuff and if i am not wrong its PH not a steroid .

01-28-2007, 03:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
biosize Rank: New Member Experience: 5-7 Years Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: RUSSIA Posts: 13 Country: Gender:	yep , no andro i confused is with M1A that have 17-hydroxy-6-alpha methyl-ethyletiochalon-3,20 dione

01-28-2007, 08:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
shmadufa Rank: Member Experience: 3-5 Years Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 79 Gender:	whats the difference between a steriod, prohormone, and a test booster. i also saw the word "andro," what is that?

01-29-2007, 09:21 AM	#8 (permalink)
biosize Rank: New Member Experience: 5-7 Years Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: RUSSIA Posts: 13 Country: Gender:	andro 1 step before test

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