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Dr X · 05-03-2007, 05:29 PM

What it is is over priced garbage made to fool you into thinking you are getting some kind of steroid. Probably rip your liver up.

mac · 05-03-2007, 08:21 PM

Are you refering to the tren-xtreme?

Scorcher2005 · 05-03-2007, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr X

What it is is over priced garbage made to fool you into thinking you are getting some kind of steroid. Probably rip your liver up.

You talking about the tren or the havoc?

The Iron Bul · 05-04-2007, 01:24 AM

Both.
If you are going to do this shit and "supposely" have to do a PCT.
Why not just do the real thing? Its probably safer and a lot cheaper ;)

hrdgain81 · 05-04-2007, 07:24 AM

^^ the keep word in that post is "probably" ...

if you do the math its not cheaper, and its actually legal. However, you wont see anywhere near the gains you would on the "real" stuff. As always, its personal prefrence.

mac · 05-04-2007, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Iron Bul

Both.
If you are going to do this shit and "supposely" have to do a PCT.
Why not just do the real thing? Its probably safer and a lot cheaper ;)

I know what you mean. I have this thing about needles. Plus I can pass the pills off as just supps when my wife asks.

Scorcher2005 · 05-04-2007, 10:13 PM

what about any clomid/nolva DURING the cycle?

Leonidas · 05-05-2007, 12:05 AM

I fail to recognize the correct usage for this Havoc...

What I do understand (or think I understand) would go something like this.

(weeks 1-3) Pre-load –Hawthorn, Milk Thistle, Fuze (scivation)
(weeks 3-6) Havoc along with continued Hawthorn & Milk Thistle

Am I way off here?? - And what is a recommended PCT?

Scorcher2005 · 05-05-2007, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonidas

I fail to recognize the correct usage for this Havoc...

What I do understand (or think I understand) would go something like this.

(weeks 1-3) Pre-load –Hawthorn, Milk Thistle, Fuze (scivation)
(weeks 3-6) Havoc along with continued Hawthorn & Milk Thistle

Am I way off here?? - And what is a recommended PCT?

Way off, the milk thistle, saw palmetto, hawthorn berry don't need to be preloaded, but it may be a good idea if you are prone to the possible side effects. 1 week should do it for preloading. Continue taking them throughout the cycle and PCT. The Havoc will be a 4 week run. For PCT, clomid or nolva is a minimum recomendation. Some others run tribulus and 6oxo to name a few.

Leonidas · 05-05-2007, 10:56 AM

Sounds good, thanks man.

Let me construct a cycle then re-post it - Will you let me know what you think Scorcher?

much appreciated

05-03-2007, 05:29 PM	#21 (permalink)
Dr X Rank: Lightweight Experience: 10+ Years Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: in the deep recesses of your mind Posts: 1,052 Country: Gender:	What it is is over priced garbage made to fool you into thinking you are getting some kind of steroid. Probably rip your liver up.
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hrdgain81 Rank: Light Heavyweight Experience: 5-7 Years Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,697	^^ the keep word in that post is "probably" ... if you do the math its not cheaper, and its actually legal. However, you wont see anywhere near the gains you would on the "real" stuff. As always, its personal prefrence.
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05-03-2007, 08:21 PM	#22 (permalink)
mac Rank: Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: California Posts: 123 Country: Gender:	Are you refering to the tren-xtreme?

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The Iron Bul Rank: New Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5	Both. If you are going to do this shit and "supposely" have to do a PCT. Why not just do the real thing? Its probably safer and a lot cheaper ;)

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Scorcher2005 Rank: Member Experience: 2-3 Years Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Beaufort, SC Posts: 492 Country: Gender:	what about any clomid/nolva DURING the cycle?

05-05-2007, 12:05 AM	#28 (permalink)
Leonidas Rank: New Member Experience: 1-2 Years Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mass Posts: 15 Country: Gender:	I fail to recognize the correct usage for this Havoc... What I do understand (or think I understand) would go something like this. (weeks 1-3) Pre-load –Hawthorn, Milk Thistle, Fuze (scivation) (weeks 3-6) Havoc along with continued Hawthorn & Milk Thistle Am I way off here?? - And what is a recommended PCT?

05-05-2007, 10:56 AM	#30 (permalink)
Leonidas Rank: New Member Experience: 1-2 Years Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Mass Posts: 15 Country: Gender:	Sounds good, thanks man. Let me construct a cycle then re-post it - Will you let me know what you think Scorcher? much appreciated

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