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mad matt 05-15-2010 03:13 AM

So by taking the var your shutting down your bodies natty test production and you've decided not to replace it with anything..

And i thought i was only the young kids that did these type of stupid things...

Ross86 05-15-2010 03:56 AM

Yeah, he doesn't have a good understanding of either thing that he's using. There's tons of scientific data out there. I guess he's the only person in the world that responds to creatine the way that he does...unless it's just placebo.

I would think that a low dose of test would have less sides than anavar.

2kong3 05-15-2010 12:25 PM

You may think it's stupid but many, many people have done var only cycles with great results.

I think a low dosage of test wouldn't help my strength much, or cut bodyfat much - not really what im after.

As i said, just take this log for what it is, regardless of your opinions - lets let the results speak for themselves

Ross86 05-15-2010 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 2kong3 (Post 86156)
As i said, just take this log for what it is, regardless of your opinions - lets let the results speak for themselves

I hope it works out well. I really like your exercise selection. Regardless of what happens, you're going to keep getting stronger. Keep up the good work.

2kong3 05-16-2010 04:09 PM

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Hopefully i get strong enough to qualify for the finals, but dont know if thats possible it's my first open competition an last years winner was mark felix so pretty high standard i would expect.

today i ate:

1 - oatmeal in 0.1% milk, 1 heaped teaspoon peanut butter, 3 scoops whey protein, 1 banana, 5g creatine (75g)
2 - chicken, onions, broccoli, half wheatabix in 0.1% milk (50g)
3 - chicken, onions, broccoli (40g)
4 - 2 scoops whey protein, half wheatabix in 0.1% milk (50g)
5 - 3 beef burgers, green beans (90g)
6 - chicken, green beans (60g)
7 - 2 beef burgers, 3 whole eggs cooked with 0.1% milk (85g)
8 - oatmeal in 0.1% milk, 1 heaped tea spoon peanut butter, 3 scoops whey protein (75g)

protein = 525g >im trying to get in more protein

Usually eat spinach 2-3 meals of each day but ran out today. The beef burgers are leaned out as much as possible when cooking but dont have them all the time, eat more chicken than anything but also extra lean mince beef, turkey and tuna, carbs mainly oats, sweet potatoe or rice. Didnt have any creatine yesterday an just 5g today, trying to let my skin heal. Will have 10g tomorrow.

pic from last night, waist 33 3/8in this morning

2kong3 05-17-2010 10:36 AM

May 17th 2010

power cleans upto 102kg 5 x 2 (lower plates than usual)
frame deadlift upto 340kg x 1, 260kg x 7
front squat (olympic grip) upto 120kg x 3
seated squat machine upto 280kg x 5
lying leg curls upto 11 plates x 6 drop 6 plates x 8
ez curls 3 x 10-15 (10+ locks each side)


Decided i wanted to work on the deadlift so didnt go the other gym an do events today - was a bad choice, hurt my back again on it, this time lower left side (another previous injury), last time was middle right side. Annoying, my body 100% hates to deadlift. Felt pretty strong otherwise, obviously couldn't push things too much with the back after deadlifts but the power cleans felt real easy > im sure i could have done 120 (contest weight on axle clean+press) today but i think the low plates helped get more drive.

Ross86 05-17-2010 04:03 PM

When/where is the strongman competition? No matter what anybody says, you've got balls for competing in an open competition at your size. It should be a great experience regardless of the outcome.

Dr X 05-18-2010 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 2kong3 (Post 86129)
dont really want the sides that can go with test (i tend to get the worsed of everything), wanted to try var/creatine cycle - just take this log for what it is

More likely to have sides from the var then the test

2kong3 05-18-2010 01:45 PM

ross - it's in northwich in england uk, uk strongman north, they have 3 qualifiers across the country, mine is on july 3rd, then the finals are 30th of august

events are..

- Hand over hand 7.5 ton wagon fastest time wins 20 meter course
- Crucifix hold 20kg longest time wins
- Van dead lift on frame as many lifts in 90secs
- Axel press 120kg as many presses as possible in 90 secs
- Tyre flip 380 kg 4 flips then load 3 sand bags 100kg 110kg 115kg fastest time wins
- Farmers walk 130kg 2inch handles carried 20m then pick up blue barrel 100kg carry 15m fastest time wins

Yeh im sure a lot are gonna outweigh me by 100lbs+ but have done the novice comp for a couple years (even in that top guys are all 300lb+) so it's time to give the open a go.

dr x - i dont agree, but does not matter either way as it would not work well for my goals as previously stated

Dr X 05-19-2010 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 2kong3 (Post 86156)
You may think it's stupid but many, many people have done var only cycles with great results.

I think a low dosage of test wouldn't help my strength much, or cut bodyfat much - not really what im after.

As i said, just take this log for what it is, regardless of your opinions - lets let the results speak for themselves

I'm curious as to why you think you can't cut while on test or how you think it will not help with strength?


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