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Old 02-25-2008, 12:44 PM   #11
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the AI is most likely the problem at this point. I would suspect that his initial pct was a disaster, and that is what set this in motion. He really needs to see a endocrinologist to get it all straightened out. I would bet because of the shit he's done he will likely be an HRT candidate, if not now, in the future.

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Old 02-25-2008, 01:05 PM   #12
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Yeah. I don't think he really did much of a PCT. Probably 6-oxo and milk thistle. It's one of the most common PCTs....
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I've done that before, and I will never make that mistake again. I got lucky though and didnt have any real long term effects from it. Being a stupid kid can get you hurt, I was one of the lucky ones.
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Old 03-05-2008, 10:06 AM   #14
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thanks for the advice guys.

i guess my gains could be credited more to eating as much as possible like i have been, but strength wise i do believe it helped out a lot. i started off a month ago doing dumbell press with 40's for sets of 10, and now im using 55's for 10 and 60's for 8. im going to start taking formadrol starting today to bring back those natural test levels. any other advice, or should i just keep doing what im doing?
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Old 03-05-2008, 10:13 AM   #15
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i don't think ive put on a single pound of fat since i started.. all of my gains have been lean muscle up to this point. i can only hope itll stay that way, but im sure with the amount of eating im doing, a little chub on the stomach might be inevitable. for overall size, thats a sacrifice im willing to make.. for now at least.
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You mention gains (I assume in body weight) and strength as though they are two different things. More strength = bigger muscles = potentially higher body weight.

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It isn't so suppressive that it would shut you down or reduce natural test levels much at all. You seem pretty convinced that it's a very androgenic PH though, so go ahead. The formestane won't hurt anything, but I doubt it will help you at all either. Not that there is anything for it to help..
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It depends. You can do a clean/lean bulk. It has to do with the number of calories that you're taking in and the quality of those calories. No reason why you can't gain mass without gaining lots of bf. Especially since you're just starting out. A little is typical, but it's up to you.
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im not as much convinced its a strong PH since you guys clearly know more about it than i, i more just wanted to finish the cycle that i started and wanted to do it right, regardless of how potent it was.

thanks for the feedback as usual. what other recommendations do you have for creatine that would be effective, and cheaper?
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http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/n...te-1-kilo.html

Just go to nutraplanet.com and search creatine. From what I have seen, they have the best prices. Just get the bulk powder (cee or cm) and some WMS or dextrose/malto. A kilo of creatine monohydrate is $12.99. Beats the socks off of creakic for the price.
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will monohydrate be as effective as ethyl ester?
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