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trhodizz 02-10-2008 07:17 AM

methyl 1-d xl cycle
 
hey guys, brand new to the site. trying to get some inside info on what im about to jump back into. first off -

current
age - 21
height - 5' 10"
weight -152

i went to gnc 2 days ago and told the store clerk my situation. i used to lift hard 4-5 days a week with a day of cardio back in 2005. i went consistently for a solid 4-5 months, and the skinny kid that people had always known me to be had disappeared. i went from around 130 to closer to 160 within this time, with the help of protein/creatine/m1t when it was legal. ive retained some of the muscle i had, but being idle for 2 years really built up some extra fat.

he told me i could jump back on an anabolic right away to help me get back to where i was, so he told me to buy methyl 1-d xl from LG. i started 3 days ago, but i was wondering if anyone has had any experience with this stuff?

Ross86 02-10-2008 07:25 AM

From what I understand, it sucks...it's a pretty much useless product. I think the guy made somewhere around $5.00 for selling you the stuff though. I would return it and get my money back if I were you.

trhodizz 02-10-2008 11:52 AM

damn. well, i wish i could, but now im about 15 pills deep and i dont think they'd take it back. i guess ill be the guinea pig for anyone who hasnt taken it. it has given me quite the pump in the gym and gives me that alpha-male kind of feeling, we'll see how much mass it helps me throw on.

i also had no idea that those guys make commission off of what you buy. i figured it was just on muscletech products since gnc and them have some sort of agreement going on.

thanks for the advice

Ross86 02-10-2008 08:52 PM

You can still take it back if you have the receipt and they might take it back even if you don't. I don't know if there are many reviews of it on this forum, but if you look on some of the other forums (bb.com, anabolicminds.com, etc) then you'll get an idea of what kind of product it is. GNC doesn't sell a product similar to what you thought the M1D was..... I believe M1D is just DHEA and ATD. So...you're probably just going to see a boost in libido and no gains that you could credit to the supp.

trhodizz 02-24-2008 04:38 PM

little update for you guys.. well ross really. on day 21 of my cycle, started off at 152 and im now at 159. im also taking creakic and lots and lots of protein every day, but ive gotten significantly stronger during this time. 1 week left to go, starting to take 4 instead of 6 a day to ween myself down easily.

Ross86 02-24-2008 04:56 PM

Good to hear that you've put on some weight/strength. I wish you had a reference point so you could know if you could credit any of the gains to the M1D. Why waste your money on Creakic? There are many other equally effective, yet much cheaper alternatives. Explain weening yourself off of M1D...what is your logic behind that? Sounds like you have your diet down...at least you're getting enough calories. Have most of the gains been lean so far?

hrdgain81 02-25-2008 06:53 AM

There is never a good reason to "ween" yourself off of a cycle. I'm not real familiar with M1D, but if a compound shuts you down, and you need to do a pct, dropping the dosage down before you start pct will hurt you more then help.

Once you start your cycle, and the compound shuts down your bodies natty test production, then your shut down. If you then drop the dosage, you'll still be shut down, but you wont have the same hormone boost as you would have if you kept the dosage high. What will result is a drop in test, a boost in estrogen, and your gains will suffer, then you will start pct and it will continue until an equilibrium is reached. This is obviously not optimal, so keep your dosage constant right up until you discontinue use, and start your pct.

Ross86 02-25-2008 11:19 AM

^^ That's what I was thinking.

M1D isn't very androgenic...or anabolic. It's sold at GNC............ One of the hyped up supps that don't work...people think they're really doing a "cycle" of some hormone or something...blah. But! Supposing it was androgenic, then you shouldn't "ween" yourself from it as hrdgain said. Mega dosing soy would give you gyno before M1D would.

hrdgain81 02-25-2008 11:23 AM

^^ hahah mega dosing soy, well played sir.

But lets not forget gyno isnt the only factor to consider when coming off cycle.

Ross86 02-25-2008 11:29 AM

Oh definitely. I just read some horror stories about liver failure, gyno, and stuff like that. Blood pressure and cholesterol are very important also. I don't think I've ever heard of anyone doing a PCT with M1D anyway. It's scary though...there is a guy that comes in to buy Novedex XT once a month (AI). It's been two years after his last cycle, but he told me that if he quits taking the AI, his nipples get itchy, then painful, then...he goes and buys more Novedex. I told him to go to the damn doctor. Because he hasn't been in the last 5 years. He doesn't know shit about it...just that taking an AI will keep him from getting gyno. I thought this was weird...looks like his body would have balanced after such a long period of time. Who knows...


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