veterinary steroids??
 

my buddy tells me he can get vet stuff ... he said make a list of what I want.. I don't know what is made in vet form and what vet stuff works... any info is appreciated

common pepole someones gotta know somethin........

Google.com --> type "veterinary steroids for people" --> press Enter

Just make sure it's quality stuff. If it's not, then that can be very bad. Lots of common steroids are actually 'veterinary' steroids. I'm sure if you do a little searching then you'll find more in 5 minutes than anyone could put in a post.

my brothers dog got prednisone.


so did i.

^^ bovine test is the same as test from what I understand, it just needs a conversion kit to go from the implant that they usually use, to a steril liquid for injection. I've never done this before and know very little about it.

On the other hand pity, I'd be careful with the prednisone, they give that to cancer patients to stop muscle wasting. From what I understand its a decent oral with mild shut down, but it makes you hold a ton of water ... my nurse friend tells me the cancer kid ward looks like moon face central.

1iu hgh/ed
Var Weeks 1-2 5mg/ed
Var Weeks 3-8 10mg/ed

I found this somewhere, but have no idea what it means....must be written in some kind of super secret roid language or something.:006:

Hey, Shauny, get the stuff that they injected into Emil Blonsky on The Incredible Hulk!!
Joker, you probably have to look at that with super-secret decoder glasses!!:biglaugh:
Unless someone speaks Roidian...

1iu hgh/ed = one iu of human growth hormone every day (iu = international unit I believe, and is a standard for injectables)

Var Weeks 1-2 5mg/ed = anavar weeks one through two, 5mg everday

Var Weeks 3-8 10mg/ed = I bet you can guess this one now.

I dont know that this helps much though.

Apparently I do because it looks like plain English :D

I was kidding guys :)

Ah, you Joker! :)

Ok so I'm an idiot, and didnt realize you were being sarcastic joker ... wow I feel dumb.

On the prednisone thing, I like Pity have been on it. Twice actually. Just wanted to make clear that corticosteroids have nothing to do with anabolics. For cancer they are actually used as an adjunct for cancer treatment itself and to help with the chemotherapy symptoms. They can increase appetite (a lot) so that could help sometimes. Just want to make sure nobody tries to get prednisone on the street to use for bb'ing purposes, lol..that could kill you. Prednisone absolutely ravishes the body after a while. Muscle wasting can actually be a symptom of long term use although I think some people reported an effect against muscle wasting anecdotally but it doesn't stand up to the actual evidence. From what I've heard it slows down protein synthesis more than it protects from degradation.

You know what, I'm almost positive that someone will read you post and go Ohhhhhh thats what an I.u is

^^ good to know eric, I dont know much about it accept for what I've heard through friends who work at hospitols that use it. Does it not help with muscle wasting?

I don't think that is why they give it although I have heard people saying that. I know that it is given to AIDS patients for many reasons but for actual muscle wasting (a bigtime AIDS symptom) they use test. But you know, ime, prednisone is one of those things that is overused in medicine and I'm sure many times it is used for reasons outside it's actual effectiveness.

It is a corticosteroid and so it is related to the effects of cortisol in your body. In fact it causes adrenal suppression after a while. And also it is given in cases of adrenal insufficiency. Basically to replace a lack of cortisol in the body. So of course cortisol has to do with protein metabolism but we know what excess cortisol does to muscle. People on pred get fat, not muscular :)

I had someone say to me that they "request" pridnisone every year for their sinus problems and I was like WTF?!

I worked as a vet tech and it is used for dogs a bunch. They tend to handle it well compared to people. But how would we know? :)

It definitely does bloat your face, etc like you said. The second time I went on it the side effects were so bad I couldn't even continue taking it. Some people with really bad auto-immune conditions (I have had sarcoidosis) that can't be controlled any other way end up being on pred long-term and it's really a case where the drug itself is slowly killing them but there is no other choice. It causes adrenal shutdown so that is why it has to be tapered off at the end. And that depends on the length of time you've been on it. Going off pred abruptly can be deadly.

But when it is needed it can be a life saver.

i just got it when my asthma got really bad due to sinus infections...cleared up the inflammation in my lungs...i was not recommending it for use as a steroid :)

I know that Pity. I wasn't implying that you were. I was responding to what hrdgain said about the muscle wasting in cancer patients. Didn't want people to equate pred with muscles is all. I mean you never know what some people will do. Lot's of people may have unfinished pred lying around and give it to someone who thinks it will help with bodybuilding...shit like that.

werd....i wasn't implying that you were implying :)

after my bro's dog passed away...they still have some prednisone...and i was having asthma troubles...almost took it :) but i went to doc instead :) and yeah...it's not even anabolic....

That makes sense, the only times I've heard of it used for muslce wasting was in children, perhaps because of the adverse effects of test on prepubesant children ... but thats just speculation.

anyway, back to our regularly scheduled steroid discussion haha.

Haha, yes, a little bit of digression...

so before I got thread jacked I was wondering if anyone had any experience with stuff u can get from a vet?my pc is down or id research it but my phone does good on this site so im asking again is there anything I can get from this vet guy I know that would be worth a sh#t? hrdgain said test bovine but needs to be mixed... no thanks but any thing else???

do you normally go to the vet for checkups?

:biglaugh: :biggthumpup::jester::bananna3:

ha ha no but my doc won't hook it up... so nobody knows what I should ask this guy for? I guess im just gonna get ripped off by another internet site thanks guys.....

This site isn't really big into steroid use and it's not the only bodybuilding site around, another board may have your answers...

Just so you can't accuse me of not contributing anything :D...Equipose is an anabolic and I believe they use it for horses, so you could look into that. http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catequi.htm -->Solvay Veterinary

Ok :)

this is how life works, dude....come on....don't tell me you don't know that by now....

tsk tsk

;)

Have you heard of Operation Raw Deal? If not check it out. This is not a secure site. It would probably take the D.E.A. a minute to get your I.P. and find out who you are.

That being said, it sounds like you may be doing your first cycle. If thats the case and your hellbent on using roids you should stick to just test. thats it.

BTW if you get caught with steriods with out a script you may be facing hard time. Its a class 3 felony, same as getting busted with crack or coke or meth.

You may see it as no big deal I only got 1 10ml vial. the courts see it as having not 10 but 20 doses. they consider a dose .05ml.

Shaun, not to be a dick, but arent you currently dong a cycle? Why not go back to the supplier who you got that cycle from? Not to mention your going to need a lot of time off between cycle, I understand you looking for info, but be patient, and do your research, and be fucking careful.

thank u kane... joker do u know anyone who has had a good exp with that operation? hardgain my hook up isn't doin it for me he wants like 250 a bottle... I know I plan on taking a while off but since I might have a good thing goin with this vet I figured I could help out my buddys....and maybe my pocket.... and then my next cycle I won't have to hunt so hard for everything.....

^^ prudent planning, good call.

250 a bottle. shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. i really dont know jack shit about steriods, but i dont know if 250 is worth it my man. thats just my 2 cents. im pretty sure you know what you want and are getting into, but damn. 250 is crazy

Hate to tell you but your getting ripped.

going rate for Test 250 is $75 (or so I'm told)
Anything more than $150..is just not worth it.

I got what im on now for free but when I heard how much this shit costs...... there out of there damn minds.... so im hoping to find out more about this vet stuff and corner the market....

I know there isnt much here, but I've seen alot of info on line about converting vet stuff. Hell you can go get bovine test implants online for nothing compared to $250 ... or so I've heard.

Vet Grade
 

The Veterinary steroids are the exact same product. For instance if it says Testosterone Enthanate, thats what it is. However if it was made for animals it is probably safe but there are not as many quality controls. so it is a risk, but they work the same and they are safer than underground labs, and i have never had a problem with them.

"bovine kits"
 

The "bovine kits" are Finaplix H. You can purchase them legally from a feedstore. they come in a pellet form that is meant to be implanted under the skin of heffers. they cost about $40 per kit and you get 2000mg of trenbolone acetate in each kit. you can get a conversion kit for about $30 online and make your own injectible trenolone. it is surprisingly easy and and gives awesome results if you do it right.

herees the scoop on finaplix... it can work....highly toxic.. can be used with the bovine kit an made injectable or can be used transdermal BUT I thought about using this the price is unbeatable but theres a guy at my gym I told about this shit and he said he made an used it for 2yrs and now he has all kinds of problems I don't want and he sold 2 bottles to 2 diff guys at my gym an one guy had kidney failure ...he was a big time juicer any way but as soon as he mixed in this it was bad news... the other had some other major problem its slipped my mind but its somethin I don't want....... my two cents is stick to a brand name such as qv then as long as its not a counterfeit you know your odds are better... another thing I read an article in md mag sayin that 90 percent of brittish dragon is fake and most deca and tren is just a weak test cause its cheaper to make so be carful......

tren is only meant to be taken for about 6 weeks at a time bc it is toxic, but it is managable. so stack it with test or use it while cutting