Where to get HAVOC
 

I ordered a bottle of HAVOC a few weeks ago and I just got an email from the company that it is on back order and will be another 2 weeks until I recieve my order. Anyone know of another place to get some where I won't have to wait on a backorder list?? The compan I ordered it from is mysupplementstore.com. They also said that if I didn't want to wait for the HAVOC that they can send me out a bottle of Tren 13-Eythl, which they have in stock, for the same price. They claim this, "We do have Tren 13-Eythl which has double the active ingredients and is by far our strongest and best selling pro-hormone". Anyone know anything about this product?? I did a post asking about a supplement Tren Xtreme a while ago, is this going to be the same thing?? I haven't done a google search on this yet.

Alright I just did a Google search on this and this is what I've found, maybe someone here can decipher this for me. All mumbo jumbo to me might as well be in another language :biglaugh:

The active compound in Tren 13-Ethyl by NRG-X Labs is 13-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-2,5(10)-diene-17-one. I find it unlikely that there are very many aware of this structure, but it is certainly worth discussing. It is legal because it is a progestin, and before anyone thinks "birth-control", remember that trenbolone, nandrolone, methyltrienolone and Methyl-Dien are all progestins. I doubt anyone will dispute the effects of these compounds upon favorable body composition. But they do all have one bad effect to put an end to... (I should add as a relevant comparison that Clomid and Nolvadex are estrogens...and how many males have rid themselves of feminizing effects plus increased natural testosterone production with them?)

As a progestin, Tren 13-Ethyl by NRG-X Labs is structurally related to the so-called abortion pill RU-486 and as such acts as an "anti-progesterone". Yes, this means decreased estrogen-like effects and an increase in libido. This is likely why so many testers have referred to Tren 13-Ethyl by NRG-X Labs as the anti-Deca-Dick/Tren-Dick product. Research suggests that Tren 13-Ethyl by NRG-X Labs has a half-life of about 6 hours, though it appears that it is closer to 10 hours based upon plasma levels maintained in our test subjects. It is not a 17-alkylated analog thus having very low potential for liver toxicity. However, it should be noted that oral bioavailability is significant as a administration protocol of 25mg 3 times daily provides about the same results as 10mg 2 times daily of ErgoTren 13-Ethyl by NRG-X Labs in regard to body composition effects, strength and lean mass.

Progestins do not aromatize to estrogens and being a 5-alpha-reduced analog prevents conversion to DHT. It is important to remember that being 5-alpha-reduced also means it is related to DHT. Hmmm, 5-alpha reduced means good high quality hardening effects, too. Naturally the lack of estrogenic activity translates into low water retention and solid gains. Due to non-aromatization to estrogens, there is a lower potential for HPTA inhibition from use. This does not mean that there is none, just less to deal with post use. Remember that there are two HPTA negative feed-back loops (Please see Ultra Hot info). 4-8 weeks of continuous Tren 13-Ethyl by NRG-X Labs administration provides good results. And yes, I do suggest the use of Ultra Hot for 4-6 weeks before repeating.

There are a lot of Havoc/Episane clones out there mac, many list the active differently, but there are many different ways to write chemical compositions.

I am curently using Epimax, there is also epidrol, I dont know anything about tren 13 you sited though, sorry.

Yeah I might have to try some of those instead.....I don't really feel like waiting in line for the HAVOC especially when they were so eager to take my money but failed to tell me that it was on back order for about a month. :lame: