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Old 02-11-2009, 08:56 PM   #11
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I can't wait for Kane to respond...I just can't do it!

Um...yes, muscle glycogen is depleted. That doesn't automatically mean that muscle is going to be wasted. If pre workout nutrition is good, then catabolism can be kept to a minimum. It's easy to replenish muscle glycogen and can be done in a matter of hours. Resistance training depletes muscle glycogen also. But I still train more than twice a week. Don't you?

Have you ever seen a sprinter? I imagine that some of them do sprints more than once a week. If your muscle glycogen becomes completely depleted, it's not the end of the world; it's time to eat.

I know you're trying to help, but the advice wasn't good and the response to Kane's question was worse. It was altogether not true. Interestingly, you didn't even answer his questions. You talked about glycogen and he was talking about strength. They're not the same thing.

In the second post telling him to read the HIIT article...I'm sure he already has. He probably read it a couple of years ago. You have to consider the audience that the article was written for.

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Old 02-12-2009, 07:48 AM   #12
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Thanks Ross. You said alot of what I was going to say. I'll still add in some things though

The whole thing about heavy strain on skinny athletes is something that I will leave alone.

Yes, glycogen is being depleted and like Ross said a good pre/post workout plan will stave off catabolism. What is the difference between sprinting and weight training? As far as my muscles are concerned there really isn't one (given that my muscles are exerting the same contraction force for the same amount of time, in both sprinting and weight training).

What about the carryover? Maybe sprinting will affect my squats because I'm accumulating fatigue in my legs and that fatigue will affect my ability (ability will decrease but my strength will not decrease), what about bench? Will sprinting affect my pressing ability?

If the problem can be solved by drinking a protein shake mid-workout (sprinting or weights) then its really not zapping anything, especially strength. A decrease in ability does not mean there has been a decrease in strength.

Ross is right, I've read the HIIT article already. Many many years ago

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It guess it depends on all the variables. But I must say again in simple terms that intense work to much of the time throughout the course of weeks will start to make you burn out, no matter if you "take a protein shake during training" no matter what a person thinks. You still have to take into consideration the nervous system, which also gets taxed during intense training, and takes much longer to recover than your muscles glycogen stores, or your muscles themselves.

Look, all I'm saying is that I don't think running 3-4 times a week will give him a cut look if that's what hes going for. It'll help him lose weight, that's for sure, but I can alomost guarantee, that he won't quite het the exact results he's after, hence I wen't that route before, and didn't get what I wanted either, and I know many other traininies who experinced the same. Some might get the what their after through this method, but then some people's genetics are simply diff. And if you think of the advice, I really don't think doing sprint's 2x week to start is bad advice for fat loss, if you think about it.

Question kane. Are a trainer possibly? If so you can give me advice in my training routines when I post it in the training section, since you seem more than happy to oblige.

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Old 02-12-2009, 10:37 AM   #14
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. Resistance training depletes muscle glycogen also. But I still train more than twice a week. Don't you?
Yes, I do train more than twice a week, but not cardio, because it tends to drain to much of my energy, and makes me go flat.
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i get alot more drained from weight training than i do from doing sprints twice a week. of course if i was doing a bunch of isolations in the gym that wouldn't make me tired either.

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Question kane. Are a trainer possibly? If so you can give me advice in my training routines when I post it in the training section, since you seem more than happy to oblige.
I'm not a trainer by any means. I know a little bit, that's all.

I'd be willing to take a look at the thread when it pops up. Under one condition: The term 'burn out' or any such phrases resembling that are not to be written
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I'm not a trainer by any means. I know a little bit, that's all.

I'd be willing to take a look at the thread when it pops up. Under one condition: The term 'burn out' or any such phrases resembling that are not to be written

. One way or another, weather you like to admit it or not, it's deff. a factor in some cases. But yeah, I can't wait.
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I currently do treadmill 5X weekly at 30 mins, 15 incline, 3.0 pace, for 30 mins. This ensures to keep me at a fat burning state opposed to being in cardio state which will ultimately kill some of the hard earned muscle. I also perform first thing in the AM upon taking protein shake only. Great results
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I currently do treadmill 5X weekly at 30 mins, 15 incline, 3.0 pace, for 30 mins. This ensures to keep me at a fat burning state opposed to being in cardio state which will ultimately kill some of the hard earned muscle. I also perform first thing in the AM upon taking protein shake only. Great results

I like this approach.
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