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jaypatience 04-17-2007 10:38 AM

weight loss at stand still
 
I've been training for 3months and I loss 50pds total. I lift as well and I know Muscles builds mass. I cannot get past 240 in my weight loss. Prior to lifting I jogg on the tread mill for 10mins, run for 10mins, ride the bike 10mins, and stair master 10mins, with rotation of the elipticle machine. For some reason I cannot past 240, but I am adding more weights to my lifting. I have been stuck at 240 for almost 3weeks now. What can I do to get my loss in gear again.

TALO 04-17-2007 11:59 AM

How many calories are you taking in a day....You are going to have to get that number , then start taking away a couple 100 untill you find the magic number.... Calories in must be less than calories out...

Scorcher2005 04-17-2007 12:13 PM

Do your cardio AFTER you lift

hrdgain81 04-17-2007 01:11 PM

I wouldnt do cardio after lifting ever. Thats only going to put you in a catabolic state IMO. I would replace one cardio day with some Hiit cardio and see how your body reacts ... maybe up it to two. Then go from there.

TALO 04-17-2007 01:52 PM

Jst a question-----What if a person does his weights, then has a protein shake and some waxy maize, then does cardio (aprox 15-20 min inbetween) would it still be catabolic?

EricT 04-17-2007 02:43 PM

The carbs (and protein) would modulate the rising corisol levels and go a long way toward reducing catabolism.

I still don't think it is ideal though and I would separate cardio and weights if possible.

hrdgain81 04-18-2007 06:54 AM

I"m sure it would help Talo, but honestly if you can run (be it Hiit or otherwise) after lifting, your intensity with the iron isnt what it should be. I have a hard time walking the 5 blocks back to my house after I lift.

Frontline 04-18-2007 07:22 AM

I don't think there is much of a problem doing cardio after lifting if its done right. For example, I would be sipping some BCAA's and protein throughout the workout and into the cardio session to help prevent the catabolism especially when on a cut. This is pretty much what Chuck recommends in Scivation's "Cut Diet" book and it helped me prevent catabolism when I was working out 5 days a week with 45 minute cardio sessions afterwards.

Now I do think its different if you simply have a preworkout shake then worked out for 45mins to an hour, THEN did cardio for 45 mins. I can see that eventually not only hurting your results from training but also your muscle mass.

TALO 04-18-2007 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by hrdgain81 (Post 33727)
I"m sure it would help Talo, but honestly if you can run (be it Hiit or otherwise) after lifting, your intensity with the iron isnt what it should be. I have a hard time walking the 5 blocks back to my house after I lift.

I agree. But my father inlaw has been training this last month. And he does 1hr cardio, then hits the weights(or the other way around)...In no means is he weight lifting heavy or at a high intensity. Basically just trying to rebuild and feel better. I just told him he should have a shake inbetween so that he doesn't go into a catabolic state./.

EricT 04-18-2007 09:03 AM

Yeah...I think that he shoud have a shake. I would recommend SOME carbs after lifting as opposed to just bcaa's. After lifting your muscles are going to be sucking up the carbs anyway. And I would recommend whey with that. Carbs do a better job of combatting cortisol after long sessions than bcaa's alone. And whey is just a cheap way of getting "bcaa plus"...the plus meaning lots of beneficial protein. Cutting or not, after lifting is the time we want to be concerned with recovery and giving the body what it needs to replenish. That's just my .02.


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