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Old 12-25-2006, 04:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Merry Christmas to All!!!


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Old 01-11-2007, 07:06 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Every exercice is good to burn fat, to burn fat you neen to burn calorie. Every exercice will help you burn calorie. The exercice who need a good VO2 max here the best fat burner. Running and swimming are the best fat burner, the others sport and exercice are good, but you need to do it for a longer period of time. 20 min running =+/- 60 min biking. For the same calorie burn.
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I'm a big fan of interval trainning on the rowing machine.
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Old 02-13-2007, 03:24 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Jumping rope, for the most part, falls under high intensity type cardio. So it would best be used as part of interval training. Definitely good. Depending on how long you keep it up it may not burn a lot of fat during a session. It will certainly burn a lot of calories. However, most of the fat buring effect will be post exercise.

You can look at the HIIT sticky to get an idea about high intensity cardio. You'll want to decide if you want to do steady state low intensity cardio, HIIT, or some of both. I'm a HIIT believer but it all has it's use and appropriateness.

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well depends on his state of cardio, if his cardio sucks, HIIT most likely may be too intense to be used at first. If ur a 250 lb sluggish fat fuck, u wouldnt want to start off ur cardio program with HIIT. just my .2 cents but no doubt HIIT is an excellent cardio program for fatloss
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Old 02-14-2007, 12:31 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I remember reading something bout HIIT a couple days ago (not the same article posted here). It stated that HIIT can burn up to 52% more calories. Well a thought that just came to my head is that I usually run about 2 miles and when I did my first 2 sessions of HIIT, I probably ran about 3/4 of a mile. Either way, how can it burn 52% more calories. Is it in reference to of the same amount of time? If thats the case, why wouldnt I do HIIT and then something later on in the day as well...
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Old 02-14-2007, 09:11 AM   #16 (permalink)
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opfor101, I answered his question about jumping rope then went on to explain where he could find info on HIIT which I assert jumping rope would fit better into and then I went on to say he had to decide which to do....how could I be more clear?

I recommend some HIIT for those that can do it but I agree that a person who is very overweight may have some problems there. The good news is that for most people who are that overweigh, the initial pounds come off very quickly and the intensity can be turned up. Also, people confuse being overweight with the disease rather than what it is....which is a symptom of bad diet and lack of exercise. You'd be surprised at how many people who appear to be very overweight are actually in better shape than you think and can get in there and do intense activities.

Anchu it is possible for a HIIT session to burn more calories, less calories, or the same calories. It is possible for it to burn less fat, more fat, or the same fat. It depends on the two sessions you are comparing. Most HIIT sessions will probable turn out a little lower on the fat burning side because of the lenght of time people do it. It doesn't matter. And most people focus on "burning fat" as if calories have nothing to do with it.

It was thought that low intensity burned more fat because of a study showing that it burned fat at a greater percentage than higher intensities. HIIT burns carbs at a higher percentage, generally speaking, but the amount of fat burned can be equal to or greater than at low intensities. Just use common sense. If you are sitting for endless amounts of time on a bike or something while whatching TV, reading, or holding conversations, how many calories do you really think you are burning? HIIT burns more total calories. A lower percentage of fat from more total calories can and will end up being more overall fat.

But NONE of this is the point. The point is the effect is has after you do it. It think it was Alan Aragon who said that focusing solely on the fat burning during your "cardio" is like focusing on building muscle while you lift. The postexercise fat burning effect of HIIT is much greater than low intensity so that much more overall fat is being burned. It also has a great effect on cardiorespiratory fitness and aerobic fitness.

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well depends on his state of cardio, if his cardio sucks, HIIT most likely may be too intense to be used at first. If ur a 250 lb sluggish fat fuck, u wouldnt want to start off ur cardio program with HIIT. just my .2 cents but no doubt HIIT is an excellent cardio program for fatloss
not true, High Intensity simply means high intensity for you. In the past i was a fat bastard and started out doing Hiit sprints for 15-20 seconds, maybe 5-7 of them... I dropped fat very quickly, and was also able to increase my sprints duration to 25-30 seconds, and increase my sprints to 13-15 per session.

What I will say is, if you are overly overly obese Hiit will take a toll on your joints, then again so will long distance solid state cardio. So its best to find a machine like a elipical ... which you can do Hiit style training on anyway.

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^^^Great points hardgain. I was going to bring something like that up but I didn't feel like getting into a big thing about what this guy should do or that guy...

You're absolutely right. It doesn't have to be a sprint and the time you do it for would depend on your fitness level. OF COURSE running for miles at low intensity would take a toll on your the joints of an obese person, probably as bad an some beginner level interval running. But if you use machines that have no impact it makes it a moot point. And like you said you build on the HIIT just like anything else. Your FITNESS level determines what you do, not your weight. Weight loss happens as a result of becoming more fit, yes, but having lost weight is not always an indication of fitness.

And we are talking about degrees of obesity. To me a 250 pound guy may be no real comparison to a morbidly obese 450 pound guy who would start off with diet alone, perhaps being unable to do cardio or HIIT at first.

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^^ good point, if your 450lbs and break a sweat playing war craft, this really doesnt apply. I guess i just assumed a moderate fitness level, atleast enough to be able to get on the eliptical without being out of breath. At which point I would go see a doctor...

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I guess i just assumed a moderate fitness level, atleast enough to be able to get on the eliptical without being out of breath. At which point I would go see a doctor...
Absolutely. I'm assuming the same thing. It's one thing to say I'm fat but it's another thing to determine what you can or can't do. Some obese people can't even walk around their house without gasping for breath. That would certainly be an indicator that a doctor should be consulted. And it would be regardless is their weight was 250 or 450. The heavier weight comes with it's own problems and risks but it doesn't automatically rule out this or that.

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