Brock Lesnar's first UFC opponent....
 

is Frank Mir!

This is going to be interesting...


Brock will win by F5 on top of a steel chair.. :chairshot:.. hehe

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=8534

ps.. I've always wanted to use that smilie. :biglaugh:

sweet, cant wait to see lesnar in the octagon, I got 20 on brock.

I'm in on that. I think Brock will own Mir. Mir hasn't been anything after his bike wreck.

This will be an interesting match.:wizard:

brock first round tap-out

Are you saying that he is going to tap out Mir? or Mir is going to tap him out?

When is the fight scheduled BTW? I remember hearing about it a while ago. And who has Lesnar been training with? I think that will decide the outcome of the fight.

brock was looking for the real deal mma is it

The fight is this weekend and he has been training out of Minnesota with Sean Sherk. So he is training at the right place.

I say Brock by GnP 1st or 2nd IF he doesn't get caught in an armbar. But I think if he does and he is quick enough he will slam Mir like Rampage does.

I'm sorry, but I have no Idea what you are talking about.

I'm really, really curious to see how he does. Obviously he'll try to keep things on the ground. But I don't think he'll win via GnP. I think he's more likely to win by guillotine or something like that. I just hope it goes beyond 1 round.

I don't think he'll win my guillotine. Mir is a black belt in BJJ and Brock only has 1-2 years of BJJ experience. There is no way Mir will be in a position to get caught like that.

did anybody see it?? Brock almost pulled out a win if he didnt' get so excited and hit the back of the head a couple times. I didnt' even think of leg locks, makes even better sense than an arm bar even though Mir was going for a couple armbars first. What a great fight. I can't wait to see what happens for both fighter next.

:owned2::owned2:I did not see the fight but I won 100 bucks predicting it to the T and taking Mir as the victor. I knew Brock was going to go for a quick takedown and use his weight as he did a little ground and pound. Mir most likely expected this and the ground is where his jiu jitsu is the most effective only Lesnars arms are way too big to bend back, but his legs are skinny. I predicted a knee bar or heel hook. :owned2:

I finally got to see this yesterday, I was disapointed really. Lesnar could have taken that fight easily, he needs to learn how to punch while on the ground. Those huge arms were useless with the short hammer fist type punches he was throwing. He could have mounted off the first take down, but looked like he went for some kind of side gaurd. Mir got lucky as shit.

Give Lesnar a little bit more time and he will be absolutely devastating. I agree that Mir got very lucky and it seemed to me that Lesnar hesitated and did not want to tap out, but only did so very reluctantly. Anyway, I'm glad I was not on the receiving end of Lesnar. I almost pity his next victim, er opponent.

The tobacco is almost falling out of his mouth.

I really don't think Mir was lucky... Yeah Brock came out and owned him on the take down... Then those hammer punches were plentiful but not crazy effective...I think he cut him with an elbow could have been the punches I couldn't tell.. DO you honestly think Mir hadn't been training his ass off to hit some knee bars and ankle locks on a dude that is that powerful up top... At that pace Brock would have been done in a round.. Give him time and a little experience and he'll be a beast.. but Give mir credit.. It was bull shit that Mir walked out first and was the challenger too... Give him some respect.. He's top notch at bjj and has a lot of experience fighting some of the best in the world...

I totally agree. I think Dana is just trying to hyp Brock up. It was definitely a slap in the face of Mir.

I just watched the fight. I agree that wasn't luck. Mir won the fight. Give him credit. But call it what you will it seems to me that part of winning is the other guy fucking up and you taking advantage of it. I don't think that is luck. But MMA has gotten so very technical and the skill level is so high that taking advatage of a little lapse of whatever kind is really what it comes down to. Being able to react to whatever momentary advantage your opponent gives you with no hesitation IS the name of the game. Lesnar got overexited. His size worked against him somewhat despite the overwhelming brute force of the take downs. Mir found the proper target and exploited it.

Yes he looked overwhelmed and he turned away and almost seemed like he was going fetal but he wasn't hurt and there was no stoppage. I guess the idea is that if it wasn't for the hitting the back of the head it would have been over but, well, he made a mistake, fair call or not. Mistakes lose fights. Mir was obvously on his game in deciding that the arm bar attempts weren't going to happen, like Dave was talking about, and so deciding of a much better target.

No doubt he will be quite a force, though. He didn't make any excuses and excepted his loss.

The reason Brock was such an arrogant asshole at the weigh-ins is because Dana told him to be. Think about it. Brock was an arrogant asshole in the WWE, now fans of WWE see that he is switching over to UFC and still being a jerk. They want to see if he can back up his talk. Its all about creating a bigger fan base and making more $$$. On the UFC All Access, I saw that Brock seemed like an easy guy to get along with. His attitude is all about bring in more fans and part of being a fighter is having some arrogance. Can't let the other guy punk you out.

Brock will have another chance. I too believe he will be a monster when he gets through some more training.

What are you talking about? Brock wasn't arrogant at the weigh-ins. All he said was it was time to get it on and fight.
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?pn=2&fa=MultiMedia.video
Not only that but some of the clips of him befor the fight he is joking around about his BJJ skills. Far from arrogant.
I've also watched some WWE and Brock switched back and forth from good to bad like 4 times.

brock beat the shit out of that guy and only lost because he was careless and inexperienced.

if they fought another 100 times brock would destroy him every time, the guy would be lucky to survive another fight. he cant even compare to brock all he could do was hope to get lucky n brock get careless.

The guy curled up in a fetile position well brock pounded on him n was hoping to get lucky and did cuz of the inexperience

To say he won the fight is ridiculous Brock gave it to him but in my mind brock really won, look at the other guys face. Only part of brock's body that might hurt is his fists from pounding on the guys face

Yeah that's what happened.. Mir had no idea what he was doing, just got lucky.. He had no idea brock was out of control and to cover himself till he was done wasting hammer punches.. You know everyone wins and everyone loses... Bottom line lesnar lost to a more experienced fighter.. ANd without the element suprise.. aka the bull rush... He's gonna have to develope his mma skills.. Not to say he won't be great.. But I'm sticking up for Mir.. It all boils down to experience vs. brute strength... He won one fight and though he was bad and totally underestimated Mir, as did a lot of people....

^^^This disrespect of Mir is getting ridiuculous. Like Enorris said those hammer punches were doing shit. How many fights have I seen where some guy almost gets stoppage and then comes back to win the fight...often times by submission? The only difference is it's two guys with great skill and it's a chess game from beginning til the end so that both fighters get due respect. But as soon as you put in a huge beast relying on brute force...Mir got "lucky". It's bullshit. Like Enorris said the hammer punches were not doing much. If you want to call it luck that Lesnar fucked up, fine, but it ain't luck that caused Mir to be able to take advantage of it. Without the experience the "luck" wouldn't have meant shit. Show some respect and give due credit to a guy who deserves it. That shit ain't right. Mir was never out of control, Lesnar was.

To me it's just talking shit. Mir may have turned away. But there was not stoppage and he took advantage and won. I might guess there could be some kid disrespecting Mir who would have instead curled up and cried like a baby under all those little hammer fists. Give me a break.

^^I agree. Mir was taking a bit of a beating but only momentarily. Brock was swinging wildly and I think it was the only intelligent thing for Mir to do (curl up and try to defend as much of his body at once). In the end, like was said earlier, the luck aspect was Mir's experience. He knew the foot was open and the knee bar was an option. Plain and simple, Mir got the W and Lesnar got the L. However I do think that Brock will be a great fighter, he just needs to learn to control his ragelike style and fight smarter.

i wish there was an edit button cuz i wanted to add to my first post how i am more of a fan of hitting/boxing than i am the holds/tapping out

OK, the fact that you refer to Mir as "The guy" tells me you are new to mma and have no idea what you are talking about. You can sit there and say "OH LOOK at his face!" all you want. If Mir would have held on, he would have taken Brock's leg home with him. Sorry to say it, but it's true.

If you ever get a chance to hear Mir talk about strategies in MMA, the guy is very smart and knew exactly what to train for and to stay calm under pressure... That is a sign of a true fighter and a champ.

I actually missed the part about the face damage. I don't have Dave's expertise and experience with MMA but I do have experience with getting punched in the face. "Damage" in the form of cuts and brusing, many times, looks worse than it is. Lots worse. You can cut a guy from a grazing blow that doesn't really hurt, for instance.

I'm I right on this, Dave?

It was my sense that Mir was always completely aware of what he was doing. As Ennoris, Kane, and Dave, have pointed out.

Absolutely. Getting cut most of the time is a glancing blow. Not to say that cuts don't happen from getting smashed but I've seen fighters get one or two small cuts but they look like they've been through a meat tenderizer and still fight like it's nothing. Perfect example is Josh Neer vs. Melvin Guillard, UFC ultimate Fight Night 3. Melvin Guillard had Neer's face looking like crap and then Guillard cut Neer bad, had to stop the fight for the doctors to look at it. Guillard was being stupid and got choked and Neer was walking around fine after the fight like nothing happened.

Hell, I've gotten kneed in the face and had to get stiches and it didn't hurt as much as I thought it was going to.

Its pretty interesting seeing Brock fight. After watching him for years on WWE, its time to see some real stuff from him. I think he still need a lot more experience inorder to be a contender.