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| MMA discussion on Strength-Endurance program ... for the MMAist in me, within the Bodybuilding Forum; I see what your saying about the squat example, which is interesting in itself. So, we would have to find ... |
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| Rank: Middleweight Experience: 5-7 Years Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: 7th layer.. or DC.
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| I'll bring this to the top of the threads, cause I like this stuff and it deserves more attention. Dave, hit us with your program when you can. |
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Gender: | OK, I've been realy thinking about how to come up with a program that involves gaining strength and conditioning/ endurance. The biggest find in my searching was from Christain Thibaudeau who has come up with a couple Pendulum workouts and one that is for Athletes. http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle....4-013-training Quote:
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Gender: | I like the Ideas of utilizing pendulum because I can incorporate a lot of different types of workouts into a cycle system. the phases are definitely what I was looking for Quote:
so what the base of the program I'm thinking about is. Phase 1: HST 10's or DF 5x5 or DF 5x5 Phase 2: DF 5x5 or DF 3x3 or WestSide Phase 3: Functional Phase II (Strength-speed) Strength endurance Phase 4: Functional Phase III (Speed-strength) complexes and plyo Phase 5: Active Recovery/Structural Phase II (something similar what they have with light deload / DE day) My main area I'm having problems coming up with is phases 1 and 2. I don't mind doing a cycle more concentrate on hypertrophy then strength but then again I know DF 5x5 has some good hypertrophy but is very strength specific. Also WS is interests me and would help in max strength lifts which IMO would complement the SE and complexes. SOOOOoooo, any input is welcome. | |
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| To be honest Dave, I dont know why your even considering any HST. Personally, I dont think hypertrophy is important anymore. I want strength, and strength endurance, I couldnt care less how big I look. Not to mention, HST is designed for hypertrophy gains as you move from rep range to rep range. I dont know that simply grabbing two weeks of 10's is gonna net any significant hypertrophy for you. I like the phases, it keeps things moving, and allows you to focus on one thing at a time. It will also make this a program you can cycle through again and again. Improving each time IMO. If it was me doing this (which it very well maybe once I get my shit together) I would start with DF 5x5, go to DF 3x3. And thats only because i'm not familiar enough with the WS template to know how to use it correctly in this. |
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