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massappeal · 03-03-2008, 09:25 PM

is dirty bulking faster than clean bulking when it comes to adding LEAN muscle?or will you gain same amount of muscle, you just gain more WEIGHT quickly when bulking dirty? someone please clear this out for me i keep hearing people saying dirty bulking is FASTER. faster when it comes to what?gaining weight or lean mass?

TALO · 03-03-2008, 09:57 PM

If your going to bulk "dirty" than yes you will gain weight fast. You will be eating everything and anything you can. If your eating over 5000 cals a day with high fat, protein and carbs then it wont take long. If you have a very good training program than, yes you will put on muscle. The hard part will be when you want to loose the fat and keep the muscle. Most likely you will loose muscle while dieting down.
And IMO it's harder on the body (big weight swings are never good). But then again, you can always diet down very slow to maintain as much as possible.
On the othe hand, if your going to do a "clean" bulk it will take longer to put on muscle mass because your not eating as many calories. Basically, IMO, if you can put on 10 - 15lbs of lean muscle mass in one year than you have done a very good job. That isin't even 2lbs a month. With the clean bulk you need patience and if you can see the big picture it is a healthier way to go. And when you decide to shed some fat it won't be as hard, just a few adjustments.

widdoes2504 · 03-04-2008, 04:28 AM

Like Talo said, "dirty" bulking is faster....at gaining weight. Along with the muscle you are also putting on a lot of bodyfat which will make the cutting process longer and harder. A clean bulk may be harder initially but worth it in the long term.

03-03-2008, 09:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
massappeal Rank: New Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 16	how much muscle?clean or dirty bulk is dirty bulking faster than clean bulking when it comes to adding LEAN muscle?or will you gain same amount of muscle, you just gain more WEIGHT quickly when bulking dirty? someone please clear this out for me i keep hearing people saying dirty bulking is FASTER. faster when it comes to what?gaining weight or lean mass?

03-03-2008, 09:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
TALO Rank: Lightweight Experience: 10+ Years Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,652 Country: Gender:	If your going to bulk "dirty" than yes you will gain weight fast. You will be eating everything and anything you can. If your eating over 5000 cals a day with high fat, protein and carbs then it wont take long. If you have a very good training program than, yes you will put on muscle. The hard part will be when you want to loose the fat and keep the muscle. Most likely you will loose muscle while dieting down. And IMO it's harder on the body (big weight swings are never good). But then again, you can always diet down very slow to maintain as much as possible. On the othe hand, if your going to do a "clean" bulk it will take longer to put on muscle mass because your not eating as many calories. Basically, IMO, if you can put on 10 - 15lbs of lean muscle mass in one year than you have done a very good job. That isin't even 2lbs a month. With the clean bulk you need patience and if you can see the big picture it is a healthier way to go. And when you decide to shed some fat it won't be as hard, just a few adjustments.
	TALO's Sig:"But when do you actually grow? Well, we don't grow in the gym. In the gym, we destroy. We tear down the body. We only grow when we are recovering. That's right, I said recovery. I see it all the time--people beating themselves up in the gym and not seeing results. They don't understand that hitting the weights hard is only a small part of growing or even cutting down. I could train the same all year round and get big or get ripped just by eating different and taking different supplements"

03-04-2008, 04:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
widdoes2504 Rank: Lightweight Experience: 10+ Years Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 1,158 Country: Gender:	Like Talo said, "dirty" bulking is faster....at gaining weight. Along with the muscle you are also putting on a lot of bodyfat which will make the cutting process longer and harder. A clean bulk may be harder initially but worth it in the long term.
	widdoes2504's Sig:Height: 6 foot Weight: 240 pounds Bench: 415 (1x1) Deads: 565 (1x1) A2G Squat: 425 (1x1) Cardio sucks

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