separating carbs and fats... - Bodybuilding Discussion on Bodybuilding.net Nutrition Forum

Pitysister · 11-27-2007, 07:23 PM

do you guys follow this? just read through the bulk sticky and missed this the first time...

do you guys keep all of your meals protein/carbs and protein/fats...it makes a lot of sense...but...it's damn inconvenient

or do you guys think it's not a big deal....and just eat to meet calories + prot/fat/carb ratio?

i usually have one meal a day that is peanut butter on whole wheat...plus a banana...and i don't wanna say bye to it

IronKitten · 11-27-2007, 08:10 PM

During cutting phases, I always separate the two.

During bulking, I'm not as strict about it.

TALO · 11-28-2007, 11:25 AM

I agree with IK..

hrdgain81 · 11-29-2007, 07:31 AM

I've never found any research saying that it will matter one way or the other. just remember that you dont have to be super strict with it, if you are eating a protien/fat meal for instance, and you want to eat some cottage cheese, there is no reason not to, even if it has some carbs in it.

that being said, I've had great results splitting the two, durring both cutting and bulking phases.

ChinPieceDave667 · 11-29-2007, 08:07 AM

when you combine Pro with Carbs, (low in fiber), and no fat you will have an insulin spike. This is something you don't want. I don't see the problem with having all in one meal. Fat slows down the digestion and doesn't give insulin spikes. But, what would you consider a Pro/Carb meal and a Pro/Fat meal? Would you consider less than 10 grams of carbs in a meal a Pro/Fat meal?

My meals have 45 grams Pro, 15-20 grams Carbs, and 15-20 grams of Fat, and that is cutting.

If you are an athlete than you would definitely need a Pro/Carb meal before/during/after working out or training in what you do so you can keep sharp.

Pitysister · 11-30-2007, 03:53 AM

cool....thanks y'all..

11-27-2007, 07:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
Pitysister Rank: Lightweight Experience: > 1 Year Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,648 Country: Gender:	separating carbs and fats... do you guys follow this? just read through the bulk sticky and missed this the first time... do you guys keep all of your meals protein/carbs and protein/fats...it makes a lot of sense...but...it's damn inconvenient or do you guys think it's not a big deal....and just eat to meet calories + prot/fat/carb ratio? i usually have one meal a day that is peanut butter on whole wheat...plus a banana...and i don't wanna say bye to it
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11-28-2007, 11:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
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11-29-2007, 07:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
hrdgain81 Rank: Light Heavyweight Experience: 5-7 Years Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,534	I've never found any research saying that it will matter one way or the other. just remember that you dont have to be super strict with it, if you are eating a protien/fat meal for instance, and you want to eat some cottage cheese, there is no reason not to, even if it has some carbs in it. that being said, I've had great results splitting the two, durring both cutting and bulking phases.
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ChinPieceDave667 Rank: Middleweight Experience: 5-7 Years Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: 7th layer.. or DC. Posts: 2,105 Country: Gender:	when you combine Pro with Carbs, (low in fiber), and no fat you will have an insulin spike. This is something you don't want. I don't see the problem with having all in one meal. Fat slows down the digestion and doesn't give insulin spikes. But, what would you consider a Pro/Carb meal and a Pro/Fat meal? Would you consider less than 10 grams of carbs in a meal a Pro/Fat meal? My meals have 45 grams Pro, 15-20 grams Carbs, and 15-20 grams of Fat, and that is cutting. If you are an athlete than you would definitely need a Pro/Carb meal before/during/after working out or training in what you do so you can keep sharp.
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11-30-2007, 03:53 AM	#6 (permalink)
Pitysister Rank: Lightweight Experience: > 1 Year Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,648 Country: Gender:	cool....thanks y'all..
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11-27-2007, 08:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
IronKitten Rank: Bantamweight Experience: 10+ Years Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 618 Gender:	During cutting phases, I always separate the two. During bulking, I'm not as strict about it.

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