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Old 09-27-2006, 03:17 PM   #1
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Hi Guys,

I am new to these forums. I have been working out for around 2.5 years on and off, but have started to get serious these past few months. I have been working out everyday with weights and at least 40min of cardio. I am medium built, 5'7" and weigh 138 at 19 years of age.

My diet consists:

Breakfast: Oatmeal and Fiber cereal with soymilk
Midmorning: Protein shake and chicken breast
lunch: chicken breast
midafternoon: Apple
Dinner: Chicken with steamed vegetables.
One more protein shake before 8:00. I dont eat any carbs at all past 8.

Then I usually go swimming.

My goal is to achieve a sixpack. I have been on such a strict diet. My main concern is if eating alot is bad for me. I eat around 5-6 small meals per day and am pretty full, but as of late I have been getting these food cravings where I cant stop eating. I am not eating junk food (something very hard for me to do) but I am eating alot of oatmeal.

Is this normal? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You
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Old 09-27-2006, 03:31 PM   #2
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I'm not sure exactly what you are asking...

Is it whether eating a lot will keep you from getting a six-pack?

That would depend on what you mean by a lot and what your maintence needs are. What you are eating now is certainly not a lot.

Is it whether eating a lot in general is bad for you?

The answer to that is yes. Provided minumum nutrition needs are met eating less seems to be much better for you. I eat a whole lot to gain muscle and strength. I don't pretend that it's good for me in the long run.

As far as food cravings I don't think there is a simple answer to that. If you're dieting your bound to be hungry a lot unless you take steps to avoid it. You're working out every day so your body could simply be starved for fuel.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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Old 09-28-2006, 01:51 PM   #3
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Hi Eric,

Thanks for the reply.

I am looking for a lean cut, but not too bulky of a body. I always do weights before cardio. I am just really scared to gain weight, but I believe muscle weighs 2X more than fat??

Will I end up being heavier or lighter in the end? To give you an idea, I want the Ryan Reynolds body that he had in Blade Trinity.
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Well you should give your specific stats and such so that the dietary gurus can help you but here is my general response to the "sort of" mixed messages I am getting (this may just be lack of info). Edit* Sorry, I see you gave your weight and height. Others can ask for whatever else.

You say you want to achieve a six-pack. You want a lean body. Well you can get that with diet. Or diet and activity (cardio, whatever). As for "lean cut" there needs to be some muscle in order for it to look cut. I've seen cut looking marathoners before but the muscles are so wasted and tiny I think they'd look better un-cut.

Unless you are severly overweight (you're obviously pretty light) I would suggest you put on some good muscle before you cut and then try to actively maintain that muscle while you cut. It is very difficult if not impossible to do both at the same time, i.e. lose fat and gain muscle both at once. However, more muscle makes it easier to cut and makes the outcome look much better.

I hear the "I don't want to be bulky" a lot. Really, really, not something you need to worry about unless you have some really freaky muscle building genetics. You'll have lots and lots of time to decide when you are satisfied before you ever get "bulky". And yes, that includes big muscles with a lot of fat over them too.

I don't know why you are concerned with gaining weight as such. Yes muscle weighs more than fat but it's good weight. As a matter of fact, losing weight should be removed from the vocabulary and only losing fat should be used. We don't want to lose muscle. Even non bodybuilders. It's not good for us.

The answer is to eat enough of the right foods combined with a weight training program in order to build muscle. Hopefully you can do that with a minumum of fat gain. If not, once you get some mass, you cut back the calories while continuing to workout to maintain muscle and lose the fat. There are lots of specifics that go into it, but thats the gist.

As far as Ryan Reynolds body. You can't have it. Even thinking of it in terms of the general look or the degree of cutness is a waste of energy and will only screw you in the end. You can only have your body so you have to work to make it the best you can. One final thought is to not look to guys in movies as your model. A lot of times it's their job to look like that. It's a snapshot. You know for the movie Daredevil Ben Affleck had a personal trainer so he could look better in the suit and have a six pack. You think Ben has a six pack now?

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Hi Eric,

Thanks for the reply, it was filled with great info!
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