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TALO 01-23-2009 06:53 AM

Leigh Peele's FLT package.
 
Thanks to Eric , I found this on his site and I though if anyone here is interested in Fat Loss / Nutrition they should check out this package. It's only $77 ( 105 CAD ) and well worth it. I bought this yesterday and couldn't believe all the stuff that came with it.

The books are :

OPT for Fat Loss
OPT for Fat Loss Remix
The Water Manual
The Maintenance Manual
The Metabolic Manual
The Fat Loss Troubleshoot

Most of these books are less than 30 pages , but 2 are over 150 pages. For me one of the best things is she includes an audio book of the FLT so you can read along with her.

On top of this you get some meal plans sample diets , logs and troubleshooting Q&A's.

I have yet read anything but have scanned through most and it looks great. Right now I am printing everything out and will put it all in a nice binder. I find it's always great to have a hardcopy.

Here is the link to find this.
http://gustrength.com


EricT 01-23-2009 07:13 AM

I love it.

The thing about book length that I don't think all readers are aware of is that print books tend to be longer because it is a cost thing. Print publishers just won't bother with a book that is too short. It's not worth the high costs associated.

So what you get is a book filled with pictures and "charts" and basically "fluff" of that nature plus a WHOLE lot of repeating the same shit in different words. I know everyone has encountered that.

Since digital books are so big right now I wanted to point that out. When someone publishes an e-book they have no restrictions on length and can therefore just include what is necessary. So a 150 page book is just as good as a 215 page book as far as content. And sometimes better because usability is increase when the reader doesn't have to wave through all the fluff to get to the nuts and bolts.

But I prefer a hard copy as well. I was just talking about the new readers. I want to get a sony reader. Ink for printers is just too expensive.

TALO 01-23-2009 07:22 AM

I agree and personally for me I love the 30 page books. I can usually read them in one night and not get board or lost (cause I'm slow like that :biglaugh:). Then I don't mind going back in a few days and reading them again. I love it ! Just keeping it simple with all the important information. She could have made this 1 hardcopy book , with most of these other books " the water manual " for example , Being chapters. But then again this book would be close to 500 pages and a lot more money. I like this a lot better.

I also agree with the ink , that's why I waited until I was at work to print them all , LOL !

EricT 01-23-2009 07:29 AM

Yeah. Being that there are are 10 page e-books generating tens of thousands of dollars for their authors, nobody can compain here!

Darkhorse 01-25-2009 12:03 PM

Thanks for the review TALO. Personally, I'd prefer books to be short and sweet because there's only so much that needs to be said. If you want hundreds of pages, I'll give you one of Lyle's books LOL. I just finished reading his keto book for the third time and it's just starting to sink in.

Doo 01-26-2009 08:24 AM

Wow, I was just looking at the FLT package yesterday.

What is funny is the way I ended up checking it out. I enter nutrition and exercise info on Gyminee and Gyminee supports Twitter. I signed up for Twitter snd added Mike Robertson to my follow list and that led me to adding Leigh Peele to the follow list which got me to look at the FLT package.

I was hoping to just get a copy of just the OPT for Fat Loss rather than the whole package since I already have Venuto's Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle.

_Wolf_ 01-26-2009 10:36 AM

I bought the book last night.

I've read the first book: FLT and I spent till the wee hours of the morning reading it.

Damn, I've learned so much just from that book...so much that I am putting into play ASAP.

I think it's a great book and even though I was very apprehensive about spending $77 because after all, I am a poor college student, I definitely believe that it was a worthy investment.

Now comes the difficult task of actually implementing her stuff.

Very cool book so far.

TALO 01-26-2009 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkhorse (Post 75776)
Thanks for the review TALO. Personally, I'd prefer books to be short and sweet because there's only so much that needs to be said. If you want hundreds of pages, I'll give you one of Lyle's books LOL. I just finished reading his keto book for the third time and it's just starting to sink in.


I agree the shorter the better. There is only 2 big books and 1 of them comes with audio so you dont have to read it completely. :biglaugh:.

So far I have only read the water book and it's amazing . Tells you just want you need to know about water and sodium loading / depleting.

Once i'm back on nights I will be able to get some more reading in.

Doo 01-29-2009 10:28 AM

In addition to needing to lose fat, I also occasionally have lower back pain. I think I will focus on my back first so I will add Leigh's FLT package to my buy list. Meanwhile, I am blowing this month's budget on a book recommended by Eric Cressey called Ultimate Back Fitness and Performance by Dr. Stuart McGill. I'll provide a review of this book in another thread if anyone is interested.

EricT 01-29-2009 11:02 AM

Never heard of that. Who the heck is Stuart McGill? And who's this Eric Cressey?

Pitysister 01-29-2009 12:40 PM

i hope you didn't pay $145 for that book, like i almost did :)

Doo 01-29-2009 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricT (Post 75976)
Never heard of that. Who the heck is Stuart McGill? And who's this Eric Cressey?

Says the man whose resource list contains those resources...

Doo 01-29-2009 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitysister (Post 75984)
i hope you didn't pay $145 for that book, like i almost did :)

I bought direct from backfitpro.com for $44.95 + $20 s/h. I emailed asking why the high s/h cost and got a response regarding that it is shipped from Canada and they also need to offset PayPal fee.

I'll save up $77 for Leigh's stuff...unless I lose the 10lb of fat I want to lose by next month :).

TALO 01-29-2009 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doo (Post 75997)
I bought direct from backfitpro.com for $44.95 + $20 s/h. I emailed asking why the high s/h cost and got a response regarding that it is shipped from Canada and they also need to offset PayPal fee.

They tell us the exact opposite :) Someone's making money.

Pitysister 01-29-2009 06:10 PM

i didn't order by paypal....and shipping for me was like $5...must be getting too popular :)

Doo 01-31-2009 04:39 AM

OK. F*** the budget. I actually have about $100 left of "my own" money in PayPal and I'm going to get Leigh's package (that sounds dirty :biglaugh:). I will probably have a lot of it read before I get the other book I ordered via snail mail.

EricT 01-31-2009 10:16 AM

That's why I added the link to my resources, DOO, so you would see I was kidding around.

Wow, backfitpro is gouging people on shipping? That sucks. It kinda sucks some times because most ALL of the books you need can be got through Amazon or wherever but every once in a while you get a book like Ultimate Back. The last book, Low Back Disorders can be had through Human Kinetics Publishers..

But Ultimate Back, IS a book I believe everyone should have.

Leigh's package does sound a bit dirty. I don't know what else to call it though since it's more than one thing, lol.

Pitysister 01-31-2009 04:10 PM

you could call it.........Leigh's Box....................of books.

Doo 02-04-2009 06:41 AM

Finished FLTS, OPT and the OPT-Remix eBooks. I liked OPT-Remix's nutrition and exercise plan but would prefer to repeat Cressey's Maximum Strength program. I am just finishing a Starr 5x5 program after my first round with Maximum Strength.

I read that she doesn't have a problem with people using exercise programs from other sources and she even lists some resources. So, I posted a question to Leigh on what she should recommend for using her OPT-Remix nutrition plan with Cressey's program.

Doo 02-04-2009 08:57 AM

Leigh responded and said that her nutrition plan was designed for her exercise plan and that Maximum Strength was too intense. So, I'll use calorie-restriction/carb-cycling/nutrition reload concepts from FLTS and see how it goes. If I have a problem with losing fat while minimizing muscle loss, I'll use more of her concepts to get back on track even if that means postponing Maximum Strength.

TALO 02-04-2009 03:33 PM

Right on!

BTW, I hope u went through Eric's site. He is the one that gave us the hook up.

Doo 02-04-2009 05:50 PM

Crap no. I see the links now. I'll make up for it later somehow. Wonder if Eric has a link for buying hemp seeds. I am going to try that due to the protein, Omega3s and fiber in them. Leigh recommended them as an ok supplement but mentioned that there are other options that are not as expensive.

Doo 02-04-2009 06:07 PM

I could use EricT's link to amazon.com to buy hemp seeds but I think I want shelled ones otherwise some nutrients will pass through system. Shelled seeds are in 5lb bags. A bit much.

Kane 02-04-2009 06:14 PM

Doo, you said Maximum Strength 4 times in your posts today lol...Maximum Strength is great but its not a bible for strength training. Its merely a collection of exercises, sets, and reps based on a set of principles. Rather than repeat the exercises, sets, and reps, why not repeat the principles? If you keep repeating Max-Strength, it's inevitable that one day it will not deliver the results you're expecting.

:offtopic:

And please use Eric's links in the furtue, he took the time to come up with these resources. Its the least we can do :D

Pitysister 02-04-2009 06:56 PM

if you ever need ANYTHING on amazon...click through his link... :)

_Wolf_ 02-04-2009 07:45 PM

If you don't click through his link you're gonna be banned.

:p

j/k

but in all honesty: the least you could do is show your gratitude.

Oh and what Kane said is damn true. Stop doing these fucking "programs" and start TRAINING.

EricT 02-05-2009 06:58 AM

OK, lol, thanks everyone.

I think I am going to get banned if you guy's keep talking about Amazon, lol.

Actually, EC says that a good follow up to Max Strength is "building the perfect athlete" which is more "in depth" but uses many of the same principles. But honestly this whole "athlete" thing is a little vague.

I.E. you can have specific goals with the overiding goal of being fit and conditioned without being an "athlete" so the 'building a better athlete" would seem like a pricey thing to get when a great deal of it may not apply.

As much as I like EC..the guy is only like 26 and he falls prey to putting HIS "values" on everyone without knowing he is doing it.

Given that..I would encourage people to extract the "principles" from Maximum Strength and use them to help you develop your on philosophy. There are plenty of principles and ideas there which can be used without repeating the exact program. And that is what Eric expects people to do anyway.

Although I didn't use to be this way there is a big reason not to repeat the exact same thing again...it'll burn you out. It gets boring and uninteresting and psychologically that does not help you reach your goals. I mean that is 16 more weeks.

But the reason I recommend Max Strength back in the day is because it is based on principles rather than methods.

I haven't yet really studied Leigh's training guidelines but I will do that and follow up with suggestions as to strength maintenance. But as I've said in the past people tend to severely overestimate what is needed for simple maintenance. Actually endurance is much harder to "maintain" than absolute strength.

Edit* LOL, I forget how good these guys are. Kane pretty much said the same thing about principles only without blabbering on about it like I tend to do.

If your gaol is to concentrate on fat-burining, some near-maximal work is not going to make your break you. You should be eating enough, etc..

In the max strength program is not the "raw intensity" as load on the bar that would get you it is the "balls to the wall" nature of it, if anything.

Doo 02-05-2009 07:17 AM

You guys are right. I don't need to focus on "a program". I do plan on using the exercise principles and concepts from that one guy :biglaugh: along with the nutrition principles and concepts from Leigh's stuff. As long as I continue to lose fat, maintain muscle, modest strength increases and don't overtrain, I am doing good. If not, then I need to make some adjustments.

EricT 02-05-2009 07:37 AM

Thats right. I think that somewhere along the line the message about "needing a plan" has become more important than results.

You need a plan but you also need to be able to adust according to your needs without feeling paranoid about it.

Doo 03-31-2009 07:41 AM

I have been listening to the audio version of FLTS. Not all the same stuff as she adds to the text. I have also been listening to Leigh Peele's podcasts while driving.


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