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Old 02-23-2006, 11:42 AM   #1
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Hey guys, need some help here. I've been bulking for the past few months and recently I've noticed I've been extremely tired in the morning. I'm asleep by 10:30 at night and up at 6. I only train 3 days a weeks mon/wed/sat. for slightly over an hour including cardio. I did change my diet alittle from the one I posted a few moths back. I'll repost it now.

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7:00 2 cups oatmeal/ 1 cup skim milk
2 scoops whey


9:00 6 egg whites
1 banana



11:30 1.5 Chcken breast
1 cup brocoli

1:00 2 Natty pb and jelly sandwhichs on whole wheat


3:30 1.5 Chicken breast
1 cup brocoli


5:30 Lean ground sirloin
1 cup corn
1 scoop whey


6:30 pwo
2 scoop whey/ malto/dext mix


8:30 6 egg whites
1 apple



10:00 1 cup cottage cheese/ or casien protien


I was thinking maybe my protein intake was alittle high. I know it's alot of meals but I added more because I'm to the point where I eat and I hungary shortly after. Let me know what you guys think, thanks


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if your bulking you don't have nearly enough carbs. I see some. 1 cup of corn is not enough for pre workout meal. If anything I would have your 1:00 meal with some whey before your workout rather than in the middle of the day, the bread for 2 PBJs should be at least 50-60 grams of carbs. How many grams of carbs do you eat?

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How about I add 2 cups brown rice instead of the corn
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Old 02-23-2006, 02:08 PM   #4
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So the lack of carbs is probably it them huh
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Old 02-23-2006, 04:56 PM   #5
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Besides more carbs I would say you could optimize your workout recovery by redesigning your pre/post workout meals.

If I'm reading this right you are having ground sirloin, corn, and whey then working out, and having your pwo shake all within an hour.

So, definitely need more carbs pre workout. Also, much of that meal is probably still going to be hanging out in your stomach post workout. Your not going to be utilizing a great deal of it and therefore its not going to do what a pre workout meal is supposed to do (based on what we know now).

Also, if you end your workout with food still in your stomach, that's just going to slow down the absorption of your pwo shake, when you want fast absoption and an insulin spike to shuttle the aminos and carbs to your muscles as quickly as possible. (I know you know this I'm just speaking of things that can interfere with it).

The pbj's preworkout would be better but I still think protein pre workout is important also (with whey, as per Dave), and quite frankly I don't think a solid meal is optimal at all. It would be better to take some of the carbs and whey from your post and use it pre. This is more likely to refuel your muscles to the utmost possible within the window potentiated by your workout.

I don't know if any of that is going to make you feel better in the mornings, but it ain't gonna hurt.

Also, any healthy fats in your diet. EFA's?

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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BTW, I always feel like shit in the morning. Especially before I have coffee.
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Besides more carbs I would say you could optimize your workout recovery by redesigning your pre/post workout meals.
That's what I meant
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I'll added some fish oil tabs in a couple times a day, ran out a while ago and havent picked any up.

So correct me if I get this wrong, you think I should just switch my dinner to pwo and take the shake pre. let me know thanks guys
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you think I should just switch my dinner to pwo and take the shake pre. let me know thanks guys
No. Definitely keep to a shake for immediately post workout. Ideally, wait around 45 minutes to an hour for your solid meal. So in other words, I'm talking about a shake pre and post. Then you solid meal around 45 minutes after that.

If you don't want to do that then go with Dave's original suggestion of having you pbj's with some whey for pre workout, and keeping the shake for post.
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ok got ya, I'll try it out.
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