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Old 06-21-2005, 04:35 PM   #1
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I am beginning to work out again tomorrow (bulking). I did Dave's clean bulk before and it worked very well. How would you change the meals around if you planned on working out 1st thing in the morning??? Do I have to eat a meal before the preworkout shake??? Should I wake up at 6:30 eat right away then have my preworkout shake right before my workout at 8am???

How should my meals from then on look like? which ones are now P+F and which are P+C ???

Any help would be appreciated. And sorry for bein gone so damn long, im pretty damn pissed at myself....

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Old 06-21-2005, 05:31 PM   #2
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i'd just get up and have a preworkout shaek as soon as you wake up, get your stuff ready for the gym and head out. P+C shake PWO, and then at each meal taper off your carbs and taper them from high GI in your PWO shake to low GI as you are tapering off the quantity of carbs/meal then taper up the P+F meals (ie eat least amount of fat at your frist P+F meal of the day and gradually increase it as it gets later in the day.)
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My advice is to not get too hung up on carbs and fat intake. You sound like you have a fast metabolism, and if you want muscle gain, there will be a little fat gain no matter what you do. I agree with SDF about waking up and downing a preworkout shake. I do the same thing. But, this is what I do and you should think about giving this a try....(little trick I picked up)

Down a tablespoon of extra virgin olive oil with each shake as long as it's before 6 pm. It is about 120 calories per serving and is mostly monosaturated fat and also has omega's 3 and 6. It has a range of health benefits, and is the best source of calories/healthy fats. Start off with one tablespoon, and go from there. I've also heard it benefits test production.

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Down a tablespoon of extra virgin olive oil with each shake as long as it's before 6 pm.
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Why before six?
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Why before six?
I use that time as a carb-cutoff. Anything after six for food is lean meat such as chicked, fish, ect and alot of veggies. I don't agree with "bulking" and "cutting". I think if you keep everything reasonable and use the 6pm cutoff you'll gain muscle mass while slowly dropping bf%.
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EVOO lowers chance of getting alot of cancers and heart disease to.
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A bit off topic, but 0311, I remember one of your posts said you eat a lot of ground beef. What fat % do you buy?

My grocery store carries beef up to 92%, but my butcher has, like 95 or 98%. The butcher's meat is very dry though. Trying to make meatballs or hamburgers out of it is rough.

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A bit off topic, but 0311, I remember one of your posts said you eat a lot of ground beef. What fat % do you buy?

My grocery store carries beef up to 92%, but my butcher has, like 95 or 98%. The butcher's meat is very dry though. Trying to make meatballs or hamburgers out of it is rough.
i always get ground sirloin. its like 97% or 98% fatfree.
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If meat is dry then you can for meatballs add stuff as if making a meatloaf add a little sauce some choped onions oregano or whatever you like and for burgers you can add worshister (rough spelling) sauce.
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