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Old 01-19-2006, 03:05 PM   #1
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As a general rule this is my daily diet, just thought Iíd get the opinion of the group, Iíve cut out all the crap pretty much (well at least 80%), am I getting enough of what I need?

Breakfast 6:30

Scrambled Egg (4 eggs)
2 Slices Brown Toast
1 Bowl Cereal (Full fat milk)

10:00ish

Protein Shake (30g protein)

Lunch (Whenever the hell I can!)

Grilled chicken/turkey breast
2 Eggs
Rice Dessert
Apple

Pre Work-out 15:30-16:00

Protein Shake (30g protein)

Post Work-out

Protein Shake (30g protein)
Pasta

Dinner

Whatever my Old Dear has cooked for me (only time its not healthy is when I have a good old English roast once a week, and I ainít giving that up for no one!)

Before Bed

Protein Shake (30g protein)

And if I need to snack at home, I eat bread sticks!

Itís a vast improvement on what I used to eat, but are there any areas that need tweaking at all?
Also how often is it safe to ďcheatĒ, like have some chips, or a couple of biscuits ect?
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Old 01-19-2006, 09:11 PM   #2
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I just hope your better half gives you lots of veggies!
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Old 01-20-2006, 11:46 AM   #3
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By old dear, i actually meant my Mother! But yeah i get plenty of the green stuff.
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Old 01-20-2006, 12:00 PM   #4
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Ok, when dieting, I'd say stick to going low carb. Watch out on the food thats reprocessed. Like Bread, Chips, and ect. Also for fatty food, but go for the EFA's though. Essential Fatty Acids. But watch out on some of the veggies evan, like corn for example, I don't like it much, but some who diet, think its ok, but its very starchy, and bad for you. But I may be wrong.

I love to eat fruit, so some fruit would be good, and healthy for you, like apples and banannas. I'd say you can cheat every week. Have a cheat day every 7 days of dieting or something, this convinces the body to not retain in its stage of repletion, and the kyokentics are burning. Not sure if I said that right.

But as far as a cheat day, I just go for a bowl of cerial in the mourning, sandwich later for lunch, and pizza or pasta, something with carbs for dinner. But I've had a bad time when cheating, I have alot of sweets. NO IDEA if you can have loads of bad food on your cheat day. I asked them on that, but got no response to that. But me, I try to cheat every 3 weeks, because on the cheat days, sometimes I don't feel good about myself. But when dieting, I do.

But talk to a trainer or something on what you should do. Some evan have just a cheat meal on their weekends, like a full pizza or something.

But hey guys, when cutting, is it ok to just go through, and work on dieting for several mounths at a time with out cheating? Because when dieting durring the week, and cheating on the weekend, sometimes I feel bad because I think I am regaining all I lost durring the week on the weekend.

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Old 01-20-2006, 12:01 PM   #5
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Oh yea, go check out the cutting page, has some info there you can go and read also.
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Don't know if I missed this but, what is your goal? Are you cutting or bulking?
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I don't know what your goals are but I'll just talk about the protein and leave the diet tweaking to the experts.

Well, I can't be sure the exact amount of protein, but I'd estimate that if you were to go for around 1.5 grams per pound of lean body mass you'd be eating for about 130 lbs (285 kgs, I think). Does that soud right? If not, you'll still need to up the protein (1.5 to 2 grams per lb).

Also, the bulk of your protein seems to be coming from shakes. That's certainly better than no getting enough protein, but optimum is getting the bulk of your protein from solid food. I know that can be difficult, though.

By all means, don't give up your roasts! Eating poultry all the time gets old fast if you ask me. A little red meat isn't gonna kill you. It seems to be more anabolic if you ask me anyway (although I couldn't back that up with any science).

On the pwo shake, if you are having pasta at the same time, cut that out and use a source of fast absorbing high GI carbs in your shakes. I think 50/50 dextrose and maltodextrin is the best, but opinions probably vary. Water only to mix it with. Your first solid meal should come 30 to 45 minutes later.

I agree that you really don't seem to be getting a lot of vegetables. When snacking, try to eat more nutrient dense foods when you can or as a time to get in some of the extra protein you may need.
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You'll probably blast me for this, but i don't believe in all this bulking and cutting cycle stuff, i believe you can do both. But i am aiming to pack on the weight, so i would say bulk if pushed.
I get about three portions of fruit and veg a day, could be better i know, but its better than my previous one or two a week!
I know what your saying about the solid food thing, unfortunatly i don't have the time to be eating more, would love to, but thats why the shake. And with the carb's can't actually find any supplements in the usual shop, plus i can't afford them (i need a loan just for the protein i go through!) hence the pasta post work-out, however if you have a better solid food suggestion i'd be happy to try.
I will be replacing the chicken with steak about once a week i should think.
As for body weight, i believe i'm about 190 in decent muscle mass.
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This is just information, take what you want and throw out the rest. If your 190 in lbm then you're gonna need more protein and calories in general. Again, I'll leave the specifics to the experts.

If you can buy online, the dextrose and malto are very cheap. Probably the most cost effective sups you can buy. Especially since you will probably only use them post workout. You can also save a ton of money buying your protein online.

If I was pushed and didn't have any dextrose or malto, I think I would choose to use protein only. The idea being to get a fast absorption while the muscles are still primed to take in nutrients and start protein synthesis/eliminate protein loss. But to tell you the truth, even table sugar is better than solid food pwo.

As far as the cutting or bulking stuff, I have never cycled my diet, since I have a fat burning metabolism. I guess I'm a permanent bulker. That's why I don't try to speak to these diet issues. I simply don't have much experience with them.

Actually, I did carb cycling. But only for bulking.

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Sorry, double post.

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