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Old 01-29-2007, 08:26 PM   #11
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My problem is finding enough decent food on campus (check my other thread), there's a lot of high carb garbage, everything else is slathered in butter and cream and not much is very good bulking material. I buy my own, but can't afford a ton, so since there's not too much great food available I was planning on bulking a bit more slowly and eating the decent food that I can scrounge up. As far as adjusting carbs and fats for less fat gain, I'm assuming up in healthy fats and down in carbs? And obviously high protein
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Old 01-29-2007, 08:33 PM   #12
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Like Kane said ...eat whatevers not bolted down....

Another thing you should do is write everything down and figure out the calories....protein(4)/carbs(4)/fats(8)

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I'm all to familiar with the garbage on campus. Try and see if there are other places on campus to buy food, mine has one dirty fuckin cafeteria and one really good one that is kinda hidden. If your metabolism can handle the excess fat and carbs then go for it, its only short term really. Protein is your main priority for bulking. There's not much else I can suggest other than to buy food off campus or to hunt around for better alternatives.

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Old 01-29-2007, 09:06 PM   #14
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That's what I try to do, it works to an extent, but campus food is, well, campus food... My metabolism is in question right now, it seems like it is extremely low, given my inability to cut this fat after the long time I've been trying. We'll see.. Another question, to somewhat diverge from the topic at hand-
For as far as weights go right now, I do the following (bear with me, I'm not too familiar with the names of most of them..):
Bicep Curls
Tricep (grab the rope with both hands and push down)
Negative incline bench (knees higher than shoulders)
Pec (butterfly machine? Arms extended out to sides, try to push the bars around so both are in front of you (like an exaggerated clap)
Negative incline situps/crunches with weight
Leg press
Leg (sit with shins behind padded bar and extend legs)
Calf (stand on a step with heels off, hold a weight and extend my feet like I'm standing on tip toes)

Is this enough, or what other weights should I be doing? If there's a suggested ab/pec workout that's better than

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List out sets / Reps. This way someone can tell if it's enough or what way to go.
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Sorry, meant to do that...
I do 3 sets of each
7 reps per set
75 seconds rest in between sets
I keep a 1/4/3 ratio, with bench press as an example it would be press for a count of one, lower the bar back down for a count of 4, and hold it down there (under stress) for a count of 3, then begin the push again.
Ultimate goal would be more hypertrophy than all out strength or endurance
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You do realize its easier to cut when you have more muscle, right? Therefor you'd make more progress if you were to bulk, then cut.
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Old 01-30-2007, 05:17 AM   #18
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Bicep Curls
Tricep (grab the rope with both hands and push down)
Negative incline bench (knees higher than shoulders)
Pec (butterfly machine? Arms extended out to sides, try to push the bars around so both are in front of you (like an exaggerated clap)
Negative incline situps/crunches with weight
Leg press
Leg (sit with shins behind padded bar and extend legs)
Calf (stand on a step with heels off, hold a weight and extend my feet like I'm standing on tip toes)

Is this enough, or what other weights should I be doing? If there's a suggested ab/pec workout that's better than

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No. This is wrong. You've started your workout with biceps and triceps and chest. That's telling me you're centering your effort around your beach muscles when you should be centering around squats (legs). The 1/4/3 tempo won't do much unless your using it effectively like in OVT or GVT. A 3x7 isn't the range to be increasing your time under tension. Look at Rippetoes Starting Strength or Single Factor 5x5. I have class now so look at those and I'll be back on later today to read posts.
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Old 01-30-2007, 08:07 AM   #19
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Alright, I'm eager to hear what you have to say. I also have class right now so I'll look into those things you posted later on. One thing to take into consideration also is that my upper body/core strength is important, I'm going through Marine OCS (kind of like boot camp for officers) over the summers, so upper/core strength needs to be there. Thanks for all of the help so far
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I'm assuming OCS physically isn't too different from enlisted boot camp so from what I've heard from the Marines on here is that you need to concentrate on pullups and pushups. Currently almost none of what you are doing has anything to do with compound strength oriented exercise. You are doing mostly isolations so if you are worrying about boot camp then that is not gonna help.

I agree with Kane on his routine suggestions but like I said I'm pretty sure you need do plenty of pullups/pushups.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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