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Old 11-26-2005, 05:57 PM   #21
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BTW, Tae Kwon Do and Karate are only similar at a superficial level. Kungfu is not really similar to either and actually has hundreds of different styles, some of which are quite foreign to one another. Capoeira we know is different.

Tae Kwon Do is an ancient fighting art with roots that go as far back as Japanese Karate. There is nothing inherently anymore ineffective about it than any other popularized martial art. If we are talking about the bastardized, overly simplified, westernized versions of it; the kind where you can indeed earn a black belt in two years, then I would agree that it is ineffective.
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I know, I took Kung Fu for 3 years.

However, I'm saying that there's only so many ways how to kick and punch something.

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Using mostly kicks makes for a good cardio session, and little else.
I agree. Unless you make it count! But again, blame the "using mostly kicks" on the commercialized western schools giving people what they expect.
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I know, I took Kung Fu for 3 years.
I said you were a Kung Fu man!
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I will say with a hundred percent certainty that none of those styles listed above will do any real good against a grappler. It's been proven for the first 15 years of the UFC. Now, the only one's stepping into the ring have excellent ground skills (save a lucky few) and an kickboxing style of stand up. I've taken Kung Fu for 3 years and can say that trying to do 90% of those moves will get you killed in a fight, esp. outside. I personally feel that the only realistic expectation from all those kung fu, karate, whatever arts is to take 5-6 moves, learn to use them without thinking, and execute those moves every time. This is coming from both my Sifu and an ex-LAPD swat officer that I go shooting with.
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I agree. Both when your talking about the cross-section of martial artists that are in UFC and the general population with only superficial training and experience in the martial arts.

Most serious martial artists, those that spend their lives studying, are gonna have experiences in grappling techniques, and are usually active in several different styles. I don't really think the UFC represents the "cream" of the Martial Arts community.
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I don't really think the UFC represents the "cream" of the Martial Arts community.
Just the most realistic!
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Just the most realistic!
Oh, I absolutely see what you're saying. The most like a real fight. I concur.

However, and I don't subscribe this to you (0311), we shouldn't base our ideas of how a real martial artist "fights" on the movies. Even accomplished fighters in the movies are choreographed; doing what looks good for the camera, and what the camera can follow. With some exceptions, they themselves are not responsible for the choreagraphy. Hollywood employs professional fight choreographers to achieve that stylized look.

Now, I like a good kung fu movie, but I appreciate more when fights and violence are portrayed realistically. Without the stylized glamour. More like the UFC, in a way. But that isn't what most people want to see. Even with Snipes and all his fancy kicks, I don't assume that is his true fighting style. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Snipes has anything to do with the choreagrphy in the Blade films. He may surprise us. I doubt it, but it's possible.

But again, I agree with your statement in general.
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Trust me, "Blade's" high flying acrobatic kicks will be nice eye candy, but who the fuck does that in the UFC nowadays? .
I know one guy from canada that KO someone with a spining back kick and flying knee. If I can find him I'll post his site.

but thats not to say that Snipes can pull it off.
and what you see in a movie is just that, it's def. not practical. I don't think Snipes would pull any of that..

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Just the most realistic!
also don't forget Pride fighting..
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