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Dave876 · 04-25-2005, 10:59 AM

I would PM this,but feel it could be helpful for anyone....Long story short at my condo there is a nice lake with a trail for people to walk...Well recenty a girl was raped an robbed while walking(note I live in an upscale town,but shit happens I guess)..Anyway my girl Jenn walks this lake a few times/week and of course I will not let her go alone now.....Ok so I have been talking to a buddy of mine from these very forums about getting a fire arm....Heres the real deal Smokey I hear that it is pretty much better from a lagal stand point to shot to kill,and not just disable the scumbag.Does this hold water?...I also know the girls b/f because we live close and the 2 of us are looking into taking classes and getting guns(I feel so bad for this dude!)...Anyway I am a very protective persn and the kind of guy that even if I was walking the lake with Jenn and happened to look over and see a girl getting raped I shoot the mofo without even thinking about it!

Sorry this was so long but I wanted to explain it all and hoping to get some feedback from my 1 cop buddy.....

mojoclemson · 04-25-2005, 11:04 AM

Can't frickin stand those people. Put them away for life 1st offense in my mind. They are always the ones who commit the acts over and over again ever when they return to society. Such pathetic people.....

That's one of the many things I can't stand about our system

TAURUS · 04-25-2005, 11:57 AM

Im not sure about this, but I heard that shooting someone above the waist and 'damaging' them, and shooting someone below the waist to do the same, is the difference between an attempted 187 and a aggravated assault charge. Im not too sure, but it backs up the theory you have Dave about the shoot to kill scenario. Like I said though...I dont know. I knew someone years ago who seemed to be pretty good with the ladies....Turns out he was serving up 'rufie' colladas for the ladies.....uncool!

Dr X · 04-25-2005, 12:04 PM

You have to show inendt of bodily harm and you can't shoot them in the back if they are running from you. It really sux because it seems like the law favors the crooks.

Dr X · 04-25-2005, 12:13 PM

Actually, make sure she know how to use it because she can get it taken away and used on her. Other things would be good, like one of those screaming alarm devices she can carry and set off if attacked. Just the loud noise will make a bad guy run. Mace is good too.

ChinPieceDave667 · 04-25-2005, 01:12 PM

I would get mace or a tazer before a gun.. that way if he gets tazed.. and he is incapacitated, you can rip is balls off.. I'd rather him go through life looking down and remembering why he is a scumbag..

TAURUS · 04-25-2005, 01:19 PM

Bear spray - direct spray or a fogger - I say fogger.

apocalypse · 04-25-2005, 04:46 PM

Oh well Dave if someone try to rape Jenn, empty a whole catridge in to that mofo's head. Worry about the legal problems later.

Dave876 · 04-26-2005, 09:59 AM

She as mace

Apoc only problem with emptying a clip theh worrying later is that Pretty Dave+prison=Dave raped constantly......From what I heear if you can make it look like self defense and you kill this scumbag then you're ok...

Again paging Smokey!

BigEasy · 04-26-2005, 10:55 AM

Dave876
Although the laws differ from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, most say that there has to be a percieved imminent threat of bodily harm to use deadly force, i.e. fear for your life. If you do buy a firearm, make sure that you both learn to use it and become proficient with it. How you TRAIN is how you will REACT, should something (God Forbid)happen to either of you.
If a firearm is not the answer for you, mace, folding knife, martial arts might be an option. Hope this helps.

04-25-2005, 10:59 AM	#1 (permalink)
Dave876 Rank: Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Jerzee! Posts: 168 Country:	? for Smokey bear I would PM this,but feel it could be helpful for anyone....Long story short at my condo there is a nice lake with a trail for people to walk...Well recenty a girl was raped an robbed while walking(note I live in an upscale town,but shit happens I guess)..Anyway my girl Jenn walks this lake a few times/week and of course I will not let her go alone now.....Ok so I have been talking to a buddy of mine from these very forums about getting a fire arm....Heres the real deal Smokey I hear that it is pretty much better from a lagal stand point to shot to kill,and not just disable the scumbag.Does this hold water?...I also know the girls b/f because we live close and the 2 of us are looking into taking classes and getting guns(I feel so bad for this dude!)...Anyway I am a very protective persn and the kind of guy that even if I was walking the lake with Jenn and happened to look over and see a girl getting raped I shoot the mofo without even thinking about it! Sorry this was so long but I wanted to explain it all and hoping to get some feedback from my 1 cop buddy.....

04-25-2005, 11:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
mojoclemson Rank: Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 92 Country:	Can't frickin stand those people. Put them away for life 1st offense in my mind. They are always the ones who commit the acts over and over again ever when they return to society. Such pathetic people..... That's one of the many things I can't stand about our system
	mojoclemson's Sig:Beginning: March 23rd: 129lbs :( May 3: 146lbs June 21: 140ish? Check out my journal. Any advice is appreciated.

04-25-2005, 11:57 AM	#3 (permalink)
TAURUS Banned Rank: Bantamweight Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 800 Country:	Im not sure about this, but I heard that shooting someone above the waist and 'damaging' them, and shooting someone below the waist to do the same, is the difference between an attempted 187 and a aggravated assault charge. Im not too sure, but it backs up the theory you have Dave about the shoot to kill scenario. Like I said though...I dont know. I knew someone years ago who seemed to be pretty good with the ladies....Turns out he was serving up 'rufie' colladas for the ladies.....uncool! Last edited by Taurus; 04-25-2005 at 12:01 PM.

04-25-2005, 12:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
Dr X Rank: Lightweight Experience: 10+ Years Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: in the deep recesses of your mind Posts: 1,059 Country: Gender:	You have to show inendt of bodily harm and you can't shoot them in the back if they are running from you. It really sux because it seems like the law favors the crooks.
	Dr X's Sig:The Fool say in his heart "There is no God"

04-25-2005, 12:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
Dr X Rank: Lightweight Experience: 10+ Years Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: in the deep recesses of your mind Posts: 1,059 Country: Gender:	Actually, make sure she know how to use it because she can get it taken away and used on her. Other things would be good, like one of those screaming alarm devices she can carry and set off if attacked. Just the loud noise will make a bad guy run. Mace is good too.
	Dr X's Sig:The Fool say in his heart "There is no God"

04-25-2005, 01:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
ChinPieceDave667 Rank: Middleweight Experience: 5-7 Years Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: 7th layer.. or DC. Posts: 2,038 Country: Gender:	I would get mace or a tazer before a gun.. that way if he gets tazed.. and he is incapacitated, you can rip is balls off.. I'd rather him go through life looking down and remembering why he is a scumbag..

04-25-2005, 01:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
TAURUS Banned Rank: Bantamweight Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 800 Country:	Bear spray - direct spray or a fogger - I say fogger.

04-25-2005, 04:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
apocalypse Rank: Bantamweight Experience: 10+ Years Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 925 Country: Gender:	Oh well Dave if someone try to rape Jenn, empty a whole catridge in to that mofo's head. Worry about the legal problems later.

04-26-2005, 09:59 AM	#9 (permalink)
Dave876 Rank: Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Jerzee! Posts: 168 Country:	She as mace Apoc only problem with emptying a clip theh worrying later is that Pretty Dave+prison=Dave raped constantly......From what I heear if you can make it look like self defense and you kill this scumbag then you're ok... Again paging Smokey!

04-26-2005, 10:55 AM	#10 (permalink)
BigEasy Rank: New Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 10 Country:	Dave876 Although the laws differ from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, most say that there has to be a percieved imminent threat of bodily harm to use deadly force, i.e. fear for your life. If you do buy a firearm, make sure that you both learn to use it and become proficient with it. How you TRAIN is how you will REACT, should something (God Forbid)happen to either of you. If a firearm is not the answer for you, mace, folding knife, martial arts might be an option. Hope this helps.

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