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Darkhorse · 07-10-2008, 07:57 PM

If anyone goes on t-nation, be sure to pass this along!

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/blo...iarism-part-2/

If that's not taking all of Lyle M's stuff word for word to make a profit, then I don't know what the hell is.. Seriously, if anyone posts a thread asking wtf, please link it here so we can see!

slayer of souls · 07-10-2008, 08:31 PM

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/blo...iarism-part-2/

Your link didnt work for me.

The comparison is shocking! Its all step by step paraphrasing

Darkhorse · 07-10-2008, 08:35 PM

Fixed.. Thanks SOS!

Kane · 07-11-2008, 06:06 AM

I thought it was just some jerk on the web ripping of Lyle. To find out that it's Cosgrove is a bit of a shocker.

hrdgain81 · 07-11-2008, 06:38 AM

Wow, that is some shit. If I was lyle i would be very pissed, why the hell would Cosgrove think no one would notice that?

_Wolf_ · 07-11-2008, 06:52 AM

Wow....I really respected Cosgrove. I wonder why he would do this?

Darkhorse · 07-11-2008, 10:50 AM

Anuj, if anyone could post over at t-nation it would be you.

Any chance you could entertain us?!

ghij_mpu · 07-11-2008, 11:18 AM

I found a thread in JP Fitness where an email Alwyn sent to Lyle is posted. The email also contains a mail thread from 2006 between Lyle and Alwyn. There are always two sides to a story.

http://forums.jpfitness.com/......

I still think Lyle's right. The 2006 emails refer to permission granted for a different product.

hrdgain81 · 07-11-2008, 12:04 PM

^^ Personally I think its bullshit. How do you forget to cite something that was a blatant copy and paste, do you not proof read your own books?

On the other hand, if it was an attempt to plagarise there is no way he would be the blatant about it.

Kane · 07-11-2008, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hrdgain81

How do you forget to cite something that was a blatant copy and paste, do you not proof read your own books?

On the other hand, if it was an attempt to plagarise there is no way he would be the blatant about it.

At my university, if you forget a citation like that (even by mistake) in undergraduate you almost guarantee yourself an F for that class. If you do that kind of thing in graduate studies, you can almost be certain you'll be booted from the program.

What Cosgrove did is not something taken lightly in the academic community. This could have serious consequences to the research he does in the future.

07-10-2008, 07:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
Darkhorse Moderator Rank: Light Heavyweight Experience: 7-10 Years Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: CA Posts: 4,016 Country: Gender:	Plagarism If anyone goes on t-nation, be sure to pass this along! http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/blo...iarism-part-2/ If that's not taking all of Lyle M's stuff word for word to make a profit, then I don't know what the hell is.. Seriously, if anyone posts a thread asking wtf, please link it here so we can see! Last edited by Darkhorse; 07-10-2008 at 08:34 PM.
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07-10-2008, 08:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
slayer of souls Rank: Member Experience: 5-7 Years Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 411 Country: Gender:	http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/blo...iarism-part-2/ Your link didnt work for me. The comparison is shocking! Its all step by step paraphrasing
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07-10-2008, 08:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
Darkhorse Moderator Rank: Light Heavyweight Experience: 7-10 Years Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: CA Posts: 4,016 Country: Gender:	Fixed.. Thanks SOS!
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07-11-2008, 06:06 AM	#4 (permalink)
Kane Rank: Lightweight Experience: 3-5 Years Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,419 Country: Gender:	I thought it was just some jerk on the web ripping of Lyle. To find out that it's Cosgrove is a bit of a shocker.
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07-11-2008, 06:38 AM	#5 (permalink)
hrdgain81 Rank: Light Heavyweight Experience: 5-7 Years Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,564	Wow, that is some shit. If I was lyle i would be very pissed, why the hell would Cosgrove think no one would notice that?
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07-11-2008, 06:52 AM	#6 (permalink)
_Wolf_ Rank: Light Heavyweight Experience: 3-5 Years Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Trinity University, San Antonio, Texas Posts: 3,668 Gender:	Wow....I really respected Cosgrove. I wonder why he would do this?
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07-11-2008, 10:50 AM	#7 (permalink)
Darkhorse Moderator Rank: Light Heavyweight Experience: 7-10 Years Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: CA Posts: 4,016 Country: Gender:	Anuj, if anyone could post over at t-nation it would be you. Any chance you could entertain us?!
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07-11-2008, 11:18 AM	#8 (permalink)
ghij_mpu Rank: Member Experience: 1-2 Years Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 164 Country: Gender:	I found a thread in JP Fitness where an email Alwyn sent to Lyle is posted. The email also contains a mail thread from 2006 between Lyle and Alwyn. There are always two sides to a story. http://forums.jpfitness.com/...... I still think Lyle's right. The 2006 emails refer to permission granted for a different product.
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07-11-2008, 12:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
hrdgain81 Rank: Light Heavyweight Experience: 5-7 Years Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,564	^^ Personally I think its bullshit. How do you forget to cite something that was a blatant copy and paste, do you not proof read your own books? On the other hand, if it was an attempt to plagarise there is no way he would be the blatant about it.
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