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Old 05-12-2006, 06:38 AM
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Probably the biggest reason CT likes those right now is that if he needs to look like he's reinventing the wheel. God forbid he use traditional "advanced techniques"...it may look like something that's been done before.
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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Old 05-12-2006, 06:42 AM
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Probably the biggest reason CT likes those right now is that if he needs to look like he's reinventing the wheel. God forbid he use traditional "advanced techniques"...it may look like something that's been done before.
but dude....those isometric-dynamic contrast techniques are draining..... my chest is raw and i fear to think how they'll be tomorrow !!
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Old 05-12-2006, 07:22 AM
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but dude....those isometric-dynamic contrast techniques are draining..... my chest is raw and i fear to think how they'll be tomorrow !!
I've no doubt that they feel draining and produce soreness. Remember I explained to you thouroughly why I thought this would be the case. I realize that getting good and sore sometimes is a welcome feeling and gives you some feedback....but it is not a perfect indicator of effectiveness.

The bottom line is that the fatigue at one static joint angle does not transfer well to fatique at a full range of motion (I say this not because I think fatigue is a measure of muscle growth but because it is to most effective way to measure these things). What this means is that you're going to be building up lactic acid and waste products prematurely and "getting tired" but ultimately doing less work then you would have. What do you think the difference is between these and and some nice slow negatives and then maybe a good static hold at the end to top it all off?

Static holds are usually a supplemental thing that people do after they have reach failure. You give it a fancy name: "iso-dynamic contrast" and it sounds all scientific but it's really just a bunch of static holds in the middle of your reps. It's not like your body is saying "hey, look, there's a "contrast" here, I must grow".

That's the whole problem with "static contraction" training: it puts way too much stock in the "contraction" part of it. If you can hold the weight in a certain position for a while then you can also lower the weight nice and slow, traveling through a range of motions and lengthening the muscle under tension. Much more effective, imo.

And even looking at the chest exercise it makes no sense. Two inches from your chest? Thats more delts than chest, imo.
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Old 05-12-2006, 03:54 PM
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I was thinking what would be better would be doing something like "pulses" since you're into that kind of thing.

I know 0311 is doing some pulses in his DC training and I'm not sure exactly what he is doing but what I am talking about is doing something very similar to what you are doing now except you would actually move the weight up and down in a very short range of motions, i.e. a couple of inches during the "hold". Then you can follow it all with a long static if you want. If the iso holds hurt you, then this method should severly kick your ass.

Incidentally CT says the iso holds recruit more motor units than a dynamic movement. ???
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Old 05-13-2006, 07:41 AM
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Goofy Workout
Day 9
12th April 2006
Friday
Back and Biceps


Lat Pull Downs [3x12] = 60 kgs (132 lbs) (PR!!)
Upper Back Machine [4x10] = 60 kgs (132 lbs) (PR!!)
Flat Dumbbell Rows [3x10] = 38 kgs (in each hand) (84 lbs) (PR!!)
Barbell Curls [4x10] = 35 kgs (77 lbs)


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sweet workout....i took light weights and set new PRs on most of my lifts... good work IMO

i remember this quote of Dante's:

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Heavy is relative--it doesn't mean 3 reps --- it means as heavy as you can go on that exercise no matter if it is 5 reps or 50 reps. I personally like to do hack squats for 20 reps but I use about 6 plates on each side rock bottom--that's as heavy as I can go on that exercise for 20 reps. I could do sets of 6 and probably use maybe 8 or 9 plates a side but my legs (and most people I train) grow best from heavy and 8-50 reps. The day you can squat 400LBS for 20 deep reps will be the day you are no longer complaining about your leg size.
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Old 05-13-2006, 11:01 AM
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I believe I've written dissertations on this very subject right here in your journal! Woe is me....I think Dante needs to be more specific with people. This statement will mean completely different things to different people. Hence the constant silly questions and his needing to re-explain himself.
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Old 05-14-2006, 10:25 AM
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Goofy Workout
Day 10
13th April 2006
Sunday
Shoulders and Triceps


A1.) Standing Barbell Military Press [6x8] = 40 kgs (88 lbs)
A2.) Standing Dumbbell Shoulder Press [6x12] = 10 kgs (in each hand) (22 lbs)
A3.) Standing Dumbbell Side Lateral Raises [6x20] = 4 kgs (in each hand) (9 lbs)


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shoulders were pumped as hell.....nice workout.....
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Old 05-15-2006, 07:39 AM
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Goofy Workout
Day 11
14th April 2006
Monday
Legs and Biceps


Back Squats ME
1.) 50 kgs (110 lbs) x 1 rep
2.) 70 kgs (155 lbs) x 1 rep
3.) 90 kgs (200 lbs) x 1 rep
4.) 110 kgs (240 lbs) x 1 rep
5.) 120 kgs (265 lbs) x 1 rep
6.) 130 kgs (285 lbs) x 1 rep (PR!!)
7.) 140 kgs (310 lbs) x FAIL
8.) 140 kgs (310 lbs) x FAIL
9.) 135 kgs (300 lbs) x 1 rep (PR!!)

Deadlifts [1x20] = 80 kgs (175 lbs)

Isometric Dynamic Contrast Barbell Curls [5x7] = 20 kgs (44 lbs)


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last workout...

officially, i've done 3 leg workouts in 11 days which IMO is pretty good... i managed to reach my 1 rep max for the A2G Squat and i am thrilled beyond words with that lift.....

most of you are probably wondering why i did 20 rep DEADLIFTS..... well, because its there in my Pendulum Week 1 and i wanted to test it out before... these 20 rep Deads are a true killer....

this is the end of the goofy workouts.... i plan on taking a holiday from lifting weights till May 22nd.... on may 22nd i will begin Pendulum Bodybuilding..

chao till then
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Old 05-15-2006, 07:50 AM
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Those deadlifts were a little on the light side. IMHO you would be better off taking a heavier weight and doing maybe 3 sets with a short rest in between.
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Old 05-15-2006, 07:53 AM
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ok thanks.... i'll take heavier... but i'm gonna stick to 1x20.... its more challenging lol... maybe its immaturity....

thanks

and you never said anything about my squats :(

Anuj
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