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Old 02-26-2009, 09:56 PM   #381
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Have you seen videos where people had good form? Some type of example to follow? I'm not sure why you're shooting the buns up in the air. You did that the whole time. And you were leaning forward. It looks like you didn't get good hamstring & glute activation at any point.

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Old 02-26-2009, 10:29 PM   #382
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Have you seen videos where people had good form?
You know I have..

I just can't seem to do it right "in the field"..
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Old 02-27-2009, 08:35 AM   #383
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Ok. Make sure you get a good arch when you DL. Your back was at best flat a couple of times. The first thing that moves should not be your butt going straight up. You never really push your hips through at any point either.
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Old 02-27-2009, 02:44 PM   #384
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Doug i thought you were going to leave these at 135lbs until you got your form issues straightened out? you really need some more practice before you start loading the bar again! These dont look any better than they did 2 weeks ago, and now you have new habit of looking straight down to the floor during the 2nd half of the movement. pick something in front of you on the wall a couple of feet up from the floor and dont take your eye off of it through the entire set. i find this not only helps keep everything tight but also helps with mental focus and blocking out distractions if any. anyway, you dont need to look at the floor, the bar is gonna get back there regardless

the way i see it your biggest problem is still not enough bending of the knees on the way down and so your butt is stuck up in the air when the bar gets back to the floor (in essence a half assed stiff-leg DL), THEN you have to lower your butt back into the proper position to start the next rep and on and on it goes. the start position of your first rep was pretty good and that is where you should end up at the end of the 1st rep. i think your other major problem is you're not setting the back properly which is only going to get worse if you keep adding weight to the bar (a couple of your reps really made me cringe at how much your back rounded over!!!!!)

if you've read the chapter on deadlifting in Starting Strength, go back and read it again and re-read it again until you understand the mechanics of the movement and what it means to set the back.

there'll be a quiz later

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Old 02-27-2009, 04:47 PM   #385
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Still need to bend your knees and get your butt down man. You're trying to stiff leg it for some reaon.

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Old 02-27-2009, 05:00 PM   #386
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Doug i thought you were going to leave these at 135lbs until you got your form issues straightened out?
Honestly, I don't feel like I'm lifting anything at all at that weight..

185-200 is just where I'm starting to feel a bit of a load..

Maybe if my form was better it'd be more difficult, but..

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and now you have new habit of looking straight down to the floor during the 2nd half of the movement.
I'm all over that, trust me..

No idea why I did that..

I think I was trying to see if I was setting the weight down approx. where it got lifted up from, ie. straight up and down..
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the way i see it your biggest problem is still not enough bending of the knees on the way down and so your butt is stuck up in the air when the bar gets back to the floor
Yeah, I noticed that constant repositioning, too.. :(

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the start position of your first rep was pretty good and that is where you should end up at the end of the 1st rep.
Really?

Hmm.. Ok, and hear I thought I was to straight-legged on that one..

I wanted to show me going progressively lower (knees more bent, not butt lower) on each one so I could get feedback on which was closer..

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Still need to bend your knees and get your butt down man.
Even on those last 2?

Like I said, I did it both ways (or I thought I was), to show the legs more or less straight, and another in a crouched position..

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You never really push your hips through at any point either.
By that do you mean that exaggerated thrusting forward of the hips at the very end?

Next DL I'm really going to go as low as I can, both on knees and butt, see if that's closer..

And I'll review again the SS book, and the vids..

Thanks for the feedback!!
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Old 02-27-2009, 06:49 PM   #387
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It seems at the start of the lift you are positioned right and then you drive your hips/ass up which puts you right back to where you don't want to be.
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Old 02-27-2009, 07:12 PM   #388
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then you drive your hips/ass up
So just straighten my knees?

How can you avoid moving your ass?

This guy's ass is coming up and down quite a bit (very last vid)..

http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1588392
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^^^ the first thing that moves with you is your butt. Not so with him.

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the start position of your first rep was pretty good and that is where you should end up at the end of the 1st rep.

Really?
I don't think your starting position was very good. Your butt was still high. You had no arch, your chest wasn't pushed out, etc...
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you're not supposed to avoid moving your ass Doug!

dont worry about picking the weight up straight up and down. if your form is good the bar will go back where it's supposed to.

after watching your video the last thing you should be worrying about is weather you are putting enough of a load on your muscles. 135lbs is perfectly adequate for practicing deads and with the lower intensity (%1RM) you can do more reps and get your form down. you are in serious need of practice before you start getting into loading. right now you are overloading your lower back and NOT in a good way!
and what happened with your warm up sets? 135 for 2 sets then jump right to 205??? why are you asking for advice and then not listening to any of it??
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