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Old 04-06-2009, 05:51 PM   #461
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i'd drop it to about 2500 a day for a week, maybe 2 then increase it 100 or so per week for the next few weeks after that. but if you're gonna do it, do it right, no cheating

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Old 04-06-2009, 09:31 PM   #462
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2500, eh?

Ok, done..

I'll be as strict as I possibly can..
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:12 AM   #463
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What's really bumming me out is I've been doing squats since Sept, and I'm LOSING on my thighs??

What's that about?
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Old 04-07-2009, 02:53 PM   #464
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April 6/09

10 min w/u run.

DEADLIFTS

135x10x4



SPLIT SQUATS

nwx5
60x5
80x5
100x4
110x3
130x2
150x5x3

BOSU PUSHUPS

15,12,10,10,10

FACE PULLS

"13"x10x3
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Old 04-07-2009, 03:21 PM   #465
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You are squatting your deadlifts up. Why have you not been listening to what Eric's told you in the past. Jeez...you're STILL deadlifting only 135 lbs??? IF you incorporated better form you might be able to pull much more.

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And why are you deadlifting in those god aweful shoes?
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you're STILL deadlifting only 135 lbs???
It was suggested I not to go higher till I got the form right..

Looks Like I STILL don't.. :(

I was told to go lower, butt-wise, so I went lower..
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Old 04-07-2009, 04:14 PM   #468
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take that starting position....keep your lower back arched...and put your butt higher up. you want your hips and knees to "lock out" at the exact same time. work on that.
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You are squatting your deadlifts up. Why have you not been listening to what Eric's told you in the past. Jeez...you're STILL deadlifting only 135 lbs??? IF you incorporated better form you might be able to pull much more.
wolf have you read the rest of Doug's journal??? he WAS pulling much more only he was puling it badly! he had some major form problems to address before he started loading the bar. just because someone tells you how to do a certain thing doesnt mean you can immediately put it into operation perfectly. it'd be much easier if any one of us was there in the gym coaching him as he was actually training but we arent so it is gonna take a bit longer but he'll get them down. they are already light years ahead of where they were before. keep in mind too that Doug is one tall mo/fo and his legs are gonna have to crouch down more than most simply so he can grab the bar.

those last few reps looked the best to me. imo, you're not too far off Doug. you need to get your shoulders over the bar, not behind it, that's what's causing you to 'sit' into your deadlift too much. watch your video again and pause it just at the start of each rep, take note of your shoulders in relation to the bar, on the reps where your shoulders are back behind it, you're squatting the lift, on the ones where your shoulders are over it or slightly in front, you're really close to nailing it. and be careful how hard you thrust your hips forward at the top, you dont want to hyperextend your spine in that position. save that hip thrustng stuff for when you're with your woman ;-)

i just viewed your video again. right at the very beginning, just before you turned to look at the camera (:41), you were really close to the proper starting position, after you turned to loook straight ahead again, you leaned back slighty, sank your ass down and spoiled it. watch that and freeze it at :41. Your shoulders are in front of the bar, your butt is in proper position and your back looks pretty set.

btw how about that guy doing the 1/2 reps on the leg press in the b/g!
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Doug, have you read all of Eric's Deadlift articles on www.GUStrength.com ? It has a LOT of info you need to know. Pity is right on the money with his advice. Your problem is that you're SQUATTING the weight up instead of pulling it.

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wolf have you read the rest of Doug's journal??? he WAS pulling much more only he was puling it badly! he had some major form problems to address before he started loading the bar. just because someone tells you how to do a certain thing doesnt mean you can immediately put it into operation perfectly. it'd be much easier if any one of us was there in the gym coaching him as he was actually training but we arent so it is gonna take a bit longer but he'll get them down. they are already light years ahead of where they were before. keep in mind too that Doug is one tall mo/fo and his legs are gonna have to crouch down more than most simply so he can grab the bar.
I am well aware of the fact that it takes time to get form down. BUT, you also have to look at results. If you've spent 3-4 months trying to get form down and you STILL haven't gotten it down right, there IS a problem. EVERYTHING I have learnt has been self taught - all I have had to refer to are articles and stuff Eric has handed down to me. But in actually LEARNING the lifts I have had to do it on my own. I have also trained quite a few people and if you follow my journal you'll notice I put a lot of videos of other guys doing things like OVerhead Squats or heavy benches or deadlifts who train with/under me.

The deadlift is not that complicated.

1.) You don't squat the bar up. You pull it.
2.) You need to use leg drive otherwise you will be at a mechanical disadvantage. I am not going to get into what a proper deadlift is but there is a middle ground between using only leg drive and using none. You need to stick to the middle ground to get the best of both worlds.
3.) Your back needs to be straight with your shoulder blades retracted. This the STARTING point of a good set-up.
4.) Once you got your feet at a good distance, your shoulders retracted, your shoulders ahead of the bar, lower back arched, abs tight and flexed, getting your ass at the right point is mostly natural.

This is NOT that hard to do. It's like a 5 step process:
1.) Shoulder blades retracted
2.) Decent foot stance (buy new shoes, doug because those shoes SUCK BALLS to deadlift in)
3.) Lower back arched
4.) Abs tight
5.) You bend down, grab the bar and your butt WILL fall into place.

The Deadlift is a PULL not a squat.

And yes, 0:41 was the right position to start at. But the shoes need to go. You MUST use flat shoes.
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