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Old 01-26-2008, 04:54 PM   #41
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^^^ ooooh alright, sir thanks!
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Old 01-26-2008, 05:01 PM   #42
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Deadlift Day
Cycle 4


Overall Impression:
today was a nice warm day....65F sunny i loved it! so, i think i have my weekly plan more or less laid out here for me:

Saturday OR Sunday: Deadlift Day
Monday: Military Press Day
Wednesday: Squat Day
Friday: Bench Press Day

simple. i like it.
The Workout:
Deadlifts
- 275 lbs x 6 reps
- 275 lbs x 4 reps
- 275 lbs x 8 reps
ok this was a huge mountain of problem today lol....i started out with 275...i got 6 reps with the over-over grip. it was easy work. felt alright too. then, i took a 4 minute rest. got under the 275 again and tried to pull 6 reps as planned (plan was 275x6x3). 3 reps were alright...my focus was too much on the grip. rep 4 was pretty ok. then, on rep 5, just a little before lockout, my grip starts to give way. i panic and drop the bar immediately. then, i rest a good 5 minutes and then i shift to an over-under grip and nail 8 reps with 275....i was very stubborn. i wanted 18 reps total come what may lol...

Bulgarian Squats
- 40 lbs x 8 reps x 2 sets

Glute Ham Raises
- BW x 6 reps x 2 sets

Grip Work
Barbell Curls supersetted with Incline Dumbbell Curls
- 70 lbs x 6 reps x 2 sets and 15 lbs x 10 reps x 2 sets respectively
Seated Dumbbell Curls supersetted with Preacher Curls
- 40 lbs x 5 reps x 2 sets and 30 lbs x 5 reps x 2 sets respectively

Ab Work
- Lat Pull Down Sit-ups = 80 lbs x 10 reps x 1 set
- Over Head Side Bends w/ Plate 20 lbs x 10 reps x 1 set
i was too lazy to do ab work lol..

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Old 01-26-2008, 05:10 PM   #43
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On rep 4 second set, couldn't you tell that your grip was going south and so it was time to switch up before going for rep 5? Perhaps your trying a bit too hard to stay with pronated for too long during the workouts.

Now, you had trouble with your grip again but instead of doing some dedicated supporting grip work you did forearm work. Wise decision? Didn't we just discuss this? Look man if you just want big forearms then stop deadlifting and you can have popeye arms in no time. You want to be able to avoid straps for as long as possible then you are going to have to be vigilant. There will come a time when even over-under will fail. And hook grip may be ok for olympic lifts but what they are pulling is much lighther so multiply the pain by a bunch.

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ok, sir. i will do grip work next deadlift session now
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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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Old 01-26-2008, 06:41 PM   #44
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Thanks for posting that vid mate very interesting.

MaRvO.
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Old 01-27-2008, 12:25 AM   #45
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On rep 4 second set, couldn't you tell that your grip was going south and so it was time to switch up before going for rep 5? Perhaps your trying a bit too hard to stay with pronated for too long during the workouts.
actually i figured my grip would slip on rep 6. rep 5 should've been very possible...and this time my form was better: i locked out on each and every rep, i didnt do it in a hurry at all and i focussed on squeezing my glutes on every rep. so i didnt think i would fail on rep 5.

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Now, you had trouble with your grip again but instead of doing some dedicated supporting grip work you did forearm work. Wise decision?
No, not a wise decision. im sorry. i was hesitant to change from biceps/forearm work to grip work because i got afraid you'd tell me i am spinning my wheels...i did do static holds though. do they count?
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Old 01-27-2008, 12:27 AM   #46
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Thanks for posting that vid mate very interesting.

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Old 01-27-2008, 11:09 AM   #47
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No, not a wise decision. im sorry. i was hesitant to change from biceps/forearm work to grip work because i got afraid you'd tell me i am spinning my wheels...i did do static holds though. do they count?
Yes, static holds count. I wouldn't tell you you are spinning your wheels after just last week advizing you to not just do forearm work but to (and/or) do supporting grip work. I remember this stuff even if you don't!
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Yes, static holds count. I wouldn't tell you you are spinning your wheels after just last week advizing you to not just do forearm work but to (and/or) do supporting grip work. I remember this stuff even if you don't!
ok sir. i did do static holds ad i though the hammer curls count for grip work. i did static holds right after my deadlift work. and at the very end after ab work.
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Yeah, they count but when you are having troubles then you really want to be as specific as possible to target that. You know what I mean? So, simply put, if you are having trouble holding onto heavy stuff, you practice holding onto heavy stuff. This can take different forms of course but I think you catch my drift.
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Yeah, they count but when you are having troubles then you really want to be as specific as possible to target that. You know what I mean? So, simply put, if you are having trouble holding onto heavy stuff, you practice holding onto heavy stuff. This can take different forms of course but I think you catch my drift.
alright, sir. i will do more direct grip work next time. i was afraid to do any more than some static holds because i figured you would tell me that all the deadlifting plus rowing plus any other pulling thing im doing makes it too much. but now that i know you want me to do more direct grip work (and i am assuming less/no forearm work) i will do more static holds and farmers walks next time, sir.
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