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_Wolf_ · 09-12-2008, 04:14 PM

MAXIMUM STRENGTH by Eric Cressey

Phase 4: Peak
Week 13 - High Volume
Upper Body Two

Beginning Thoughts:

I did something weird yesterday. Over the course of the whole day, all I ate was:
1 sachet of oatmeal
5 scoops of whey
8 oz steak
10 oz chopped smoked brisket
3 scoops of peanut butter

And then around 1:00 am I got a mad craving for ice cream. So I have finished 2 pints of ice cream between last night and today. haha...

Workout:

Speed Military Press @ 50% of my 1RM done with great speed. Shoulder was feeling absolutely fine.

Close Grip Floor Press was damn hard. My left shoulder hurt a LOT. I can't understand why. When I was doing the exercise it hurt at the bottom position. But if I stand normally and raise my arm it hurts right at the top.

Neutral Grip Pull-ups were awesome.

Did some Close Grip Push-ups and Dumbbell Rows.

I was worried about my shoulder so I did some facepulls. On the facepulls I heard 10 clicks in my shoulder on the first rep itself. It was as if my shoulder was re-arranging itself. Scared me but I realized this always happens for a while - especially after I have suffered a shoulder dislocation.

Overall Impression:

I am sort of worried about my shoulder....This shouldn't be happening but then again: I only got a dislocation less than a month ago...I think I am gonna be doing some of my theraband rehab work for a week or so. Everyday - not too aggressively...just 5-10 minutes of light work. Lets hope that works.

I hope everyone has a good weekend!

HIThopper · 09-12-2008, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Close Grip Floor Press was damn hard. My left shoulder hurt a LOT. I can't understand why. When I was doing the exercise it hurt at the bottom position. But if I stand normally and raise my arm it hurts right at the top.

Still alot of shoulder rotation on a close grip movement of any kind.Maybe a board press variant would be a good substitute
until the shoulder is better?

_Wolf_ · 09-12-2008, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HIThopper

Still alot of shoulder rotation on a close grip movement of any kind.Maybe a board press variant would be a good substitute
until the shoulder is better?

Maybe...see, my shoulder was throbbing on the CGBP floor press. HOWEVER, I took 185 on the flat and did a rep with medium grip (the normal bench grip i use) and it felt a shit ton heavy but it didn't hurt my shoulder. I then proceeded to do 2 reps with 165 flat CGBP and that didn't hurt. Yet, when I went back to CG Floor Press it hurt again. And right when the elbows and going to touch the floor. And both my elbows wouldn't touch the floor at the same time - my right always touched the group first. Then I had to slowly continue the descent and make the left one touch. And just before the left elbow touched the floor it would hurt a lot.

EricT · 09-12-2008, 10:09 PM

Damn, I should have thought of this. Floor presses aggravate my shoulders and I'm not even actively injured.

Hits is correct. A board press would be better and if the grip is playing a part hell with it.....

Don't do what hurts. Never do what hurts.

MONSTAFACE · 09-12-2008, 10:11 PM

wolf i dont know a lot about your status with your shoulders, but i do know they are bad. have you ever tried pushups to help out. i talak about them a lot but from my own and other experiences i have seen them help with some shoulder problems. like i said i dont know to much about your shoulder problems and how bad they are, but i was just wondering if you tried that as a substitue

_Wolf_ · 09-13-2008, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shauny2times

wow gues your in your .00001 % of stonger members... which means nothing.....good form and developed muscles are everything strength is just consistentsy

Wow.....you came into my journal to clutter it up?

Strength is consistency? So lifting the same weight again and again and again = me getting stronger??? LOL.....strong logic you have, Shaun....

Eric, when you get on...could you please delete his post in my journal? Thanks.

_Wolf_ · 09-13-2008, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric3237

Damn, I should have thought of this. Floor presses aggravate my shoulders and I'm not even actively injured.

Hits is correct. A board press would be better and if the grip is playing a part hell with it.....

Don't do what hurts. Never do what hurts.

Ah ok. No worries. I'll do a board press. But I don't have a board....Can I do pin presses (CGBP) instead?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MONSTAFACE

wolf i dont know a lot about your status with your shoulders, but i do know they are bad. have you ever tried pushups to help out. i talak about them a lot but from my own and other experiences i have seen them help with some shoulder problems. like i said i dont know to much about your shoulder problems and how bad they are, but i was just wondering if you tried that as a substitue

Actually, push-ups have worked wonders on my shoulder health in general. I like doing them a lot. Thanks for dropping by, dude.

MONSTAFACE · 09-13-2008, 05:13 AM

no prob. dont knwo if they would fit in your program but you should stick to them real heavy and just switch variations. get push up bars do them off a chair, diamonds. i know doing a lot of them can be time consuming, but if you can squeeze them in on a regular (in between things ou do on a normal basis) you may not even have to worry about the bench for a while

Ross86 · 09-13-2008, 07:32 AM

Quote:

But I don't have a board....

You have big books.

A big phone book or a text book or two will get it done.

EricT · 09-13-2008, 12:39 PM

Yep that will work. Text book will be best. Phone books can be uneven. Pin presses are very different and are more suited to pause pressing. Board presses maintain the general idea of a bench press while just decreasing the ROM. This should be better on your shoulders. But of course if they keep bothering you...hell with benching.

09-12-2008, 04:14 PM	#801 (permalink)
_Wolf_ Rank: Light Heavyweight Experience: 3-5 Years Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Trinity University, San Antonio, Texas Posts: 3,858 Gender:	MAXIMUM STRENGTH by Eric Cressey Phase 4: Peak Week 13 - High Volume Upper Body Two Beginning Thoughts: I did something weird yesterday. Over the course of the whole day, all I ate was: 1 sachet of oatmeal 5 scoops of whey 8 oz steak 10 oz chopped smoked brisket 3 scoops of peanut butter And then around 1:00 am I got a mad craving for ice cream. So I have finished 2 pints of ice cream between last night and today. haha... Workout: Speed Military Press @ 50% of my 1RM done with great speed. Shoulder was feeling absolutely fine. Close Grip Floor Press was damn hard. My left shoulder hurt a LOT. I can't understand why. When I was doing the exercise it hurt at the bottom position. But if I stand normally and raise my arm it hurts right at the top. Neutral Grip Pull-ups were awesome. Did some Close Grip Push-ups and Dumbbell Rows. I was worried about my shoulder so I did some facepulls. On the facepulls I heard 10 clicks in my shoulder on the first rep itself. It was as if my shoulder was re-arranging itself. Scared me but I realized this always happens for a while - especially after I have suffered a shoulder dislocation. Overall Impression: I am sort of worried about my shoulder....This shouldn't be happening but then again: I only got a dislocation less than a month ago...I think I am gonna be doing some of my theraband rehab work for a week or so. Everyday - not too aggressively...just 5-10 minutes of light work. Lets hope that works. I hope everyone has a good weekend!
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09-12-2008, 10:09 PM	#804 (permalink)
EricT Moderator Rank: Heavyweight Experience: 7-10 Years Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,887 Country: Gender:	Damn, I should have thought of this. Floor presses aggravate my shoulders and I'm not even actively injured. Hits is correct. A board press would be better and if the grip is playing a part hell with it..... Don't do what hurts. Never do what hurts.
	EricT's Sig:I'm tired of the myth that bb'rs aren't flexible. As a group, they are extremely flexible. They have an amazing ability to bend over, place their heads between their legs, and blow smoke up their own asses. Books and Resources

09-12-2008, 10:11 PM	#805 (permalink)
MONSTAFACE Rank: Lightweight Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: philly Posts: 1,369 Country: Gender:	wolf i dont know a lot about your status with your shoulders, but i do know they are bad. have you ever tried pushups to help out. i talak about them a lot but from my own and other experiences i have seen them help with some shoulder problems. like i said i dont know to much about your shoulder problems and how bad they are, but i was just wondering if you tried that as a substitue
	MONSTAFACE's Sig:OH SHIT!!!! ITS THE COPS!!!! You clearly don't know shit about fuck - KANE You're not some sort of mystical creature that is immune to a training effect- KANE I wish there was an entity that represented the term "injury" if it was, i would find it and beat the living shit out of it!!!!! yes......i just type and press enter, i dont proofread i did enough of that in college. you know what i meant when i typed it anyway www.myspace.com/monstaface

09-13-2008, 05:13 AM	#808 (permalink)
MONSTAFACE Rank: Lightweight Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: philly Posts: 1,369 Country: Gender:	no prob. dont knwo if they would fit in your program but you should stick to them real heavy and just switch variations. get push up bars do them off a chair, diamonds. i know doing a lot of them can be time consuming, but if you can squeeze them in on a regular (in between things ou do on a normal basis) you may not even have to worry about the bench for a while
	MONSTAFACE's Sig:OH SHIT!!!! ITS THE COPS!!!! You clearly don't know shit about fuck - KANE You're not some sort of mystical creature that is immune to a training effect- KANE I wish there was an entity that represented the term "injury" if it was, i would find it and beat the living shit out of it!!!!! yes......i just type and press enter, i dont proofread i did enough of that in college. you know what i meant when i typed it anyway www.myspace.com/monstaface

09-13-2008, 12:39 PM	#810 (permalink)
EricT Moderator Rank: Heavyweight Experience: 7-10 Years Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,887 Country: Gender:	Yep that will work. Text book will be best. Phone books can be uneven. Pin presses are very different and are more suited to pause pressing. Board presses maintain the general idea of a bench press while just decreasing the ROM. This should be better on your shoulders. But of course if they keep bothering you...hell with benching.
	EricT's Sig:I'm tired of the myth that bb'rs aren't flexible. As a group, they are extremely flexible. They have an amazing ability to bend over, place their heads between their legs, and blow smoke up their own asses. Books and Resources

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