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TRAVIS DOLLY 10-29-2006 06:57 AM

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oct 29
bench pressed 151lb 8 times did 6 sets.a few days ago i could only bench 145lb 9 times so i got stronger this week.max bench is now 175lb.i hope to bench 200lb by june.

travis

_Wolf_ 10-29-2006 07:00 AM

hmmm.....good workout?

whats ur routine like?

TRAVIS DOLLY 10-29-2006 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sentinel (Post 24286)
hmmm.....good workout?

whats ur routine like?

i posted it in training forum

_Wolf_ 10-29-2006 07:06 AM

http://www.bodybuilding.net/training...tine-3839.html

^^^is a shit program

there are several problems throughout the program

TRAVIS DOLLY 10-29-2006 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sentinel (Post 24289)
http://www.bodybuilding.net/training...tine-3839.html

^^^is a shit program

there are several problems throughout the program

some how i new you would say that

TRAVIS DOLLY 10-29-2006 07:09 AM

whats wrong with it

_Wolf_ 10-29-2006 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TRAVIS DOLLY (Post 24291)
whats wrong with it

several things.

oh god this is gonna take time......

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Originally Posted by TRAVIS DOLLY
mon:legs,abs
squat 200lb 10 3 sets of 10
leg extension 160lb 6 sets of 12

situps as many as possible
v situps as many as possible

u have not targetted hamstrings directly. ur doing squats which works EVERYTHING, but then ur specializing on the quads. do u know that the MOST important muscle group for the squat is the hamstring? if i were u i would change this to:
Squat 3x5
Stiff Legged Deadlift 3x5
Leg Extensions 5x10
Leg Curls 5x10
of course, progressing on the leg curls + leg extensions isnt the key thing. its progressing on the squat (make sure its ass-to-grass) and the Stiff Legged / Romanian Deadlift is the key

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tues:arms, lower back
deadlift:200lb 3 sets of 12
bb curl 85lb 4 sets of 12
db curl 45lb 3 sets of 8
hammer curl 3 sets of 8
u NEVER do lower back after a leg day. and u NEVER do deads after a squat day either. and uve got ONE compoud exercise and THREE isolation exercise. and u've written "arms" but ur only doing biceps. see the problem? too much emphasis on the beach muscle (biceps) and not adequate emphasis on the triceps which are the KEY to u benching 200lbs.

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wed:off
good. rest is good

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thurs:chest,triceps,shoulders
flat bench: 145lb 6 sets of 10
incline bench 120lb 4 sets of 10
seated military 85 lb 3 sets of 10
shoulder shrugs 120lb as many as possible
laterial raise 20lb 3 sets of 12
dips as many as possible
the way i see it, u are doing 10 sets of chest, 6 sets of shoulders and im gonna put the dips as a part of chest.

now, u must realize that PROGRESS is the key. u know that - and thats why u want to bench 200 lbs. BUT, u need to make a plan which is EFFECTIVE in making u progress.

read up MadCow2's thread on strength vs. hypertrophy. itll help u out a lot.

back to topic: this workout has too much volume. but atleast ur hitting compounds so its ok. only ONE isolation. good.

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fri:arms, lower back
deadlift:200lb 3 sets of 12
bb curl 85lb 4 sets of 12
db curl 45lb 3 sets of 8
hammer curl 3 sets of 8
this isnt such a good idea.....ive mentioned why above....and doing heavy deads twice a week isnt so good, but since ur not so advanced its pretty ok.

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sat:off
sat off and sunday on?

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sun:chest,triceps,shoulders
flat bench: 145lb 6 sets of 10
incline bench 120lb 4 sets of 10
seated military 85 lb 3 sets of 10
shoulder shrugs 120lb as many as possible
laterial raise 20lb 3 sets of 12
dips as many as possible
ur trying to hit the big muscles twice a week - i can see that. but its too much volume so although ur hitting it twice a week, u are killing its efficency and thereby jeapordizing ur progress in the long run

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i work out at home so all i have is a bench with leg extension and two adjustible dum bells. so i can't do alot of stuff.
hmm....u open to joining a gym?

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i've been working out six months and have never missed a workout thats how dedicated i am.
dont try to simply train HARD. try to train SMART. everyone needs a break for like 10 days min after every 16-20 weeks btw.

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i want to be able to bench 200lb by end of summer
best of luck to u. but the other important lifts: the squat and the bench press are WAY more imortant than the bench press. ever met a guy who can squat and deadlift heavy and is small and benches light?

now, if u were to ask me, id advise u to join a gym

get ur diet in order.

then work on ur routine.

according to me, u would benefit most from one of these routines:

1.) Mark Ripptoe's Starting Strength for Beginners
2.) Fortifies Iron's Hypertrophy Program
3.) Fortified Iron's Hypertrophy and Stregth Program

peace

Sentinel

TRAVIS DOLLY 10-29-2006 07:50 AM

where do i find these routines.since i been gaining good on my routine.if i start one of these new routines i should gain even better right

_Wolf_ 10-29-2006 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TRAVIS DOLLY (Post 24295)
where do i find these routines.since i been gaining good on my routine.if i start one of these new routines i should gain even better right

your "gains" are beginner gains. right now, doing only one set of DB curls a day will make u "gain"

i am merely speaking from a long distace prespective

Kane 10-29-2006 06:47 PM

You've got the proper drive to make good progress....You just need to realize that 20,000 sets and reps of bicep curls is no substitute for a program with Squats, Bench, Deads and Rows, your body works as a unit and you should work it as a unit, increasing the strength of ALL your muscles and not just the ones that look good.

Any particular reason for all the high reps and sets?

EricT 11-03-2006 04:13 PM

I say again: those FI programs are not appropriate for beginners. I know he thinks any kind of periodization is always superior...prob based off a couple of studies that only really showed that moderate volume worked better that one set to failure for them. You can't base everything you do off "science". You have to sometimes turn to the guys who have vast experience training people.


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