measurments and stength at day 1 of sus 250
 

neck 15.5
chest45
right arm flexed 16.5 flat 13 3/4
left arm flexed 16 3/4 flat 14
stomach 37
waist 33 pant size
left thigh24
right thigh24
left calf16
right calf17



bench 245x 10
incline dumbels:WEIGHT~13::WEIGHT~13: 100s x 7
curl 115x10
closegrip bench 205 x10
military dumbell 85x10
bent row 205x10


5'11 200lbs decent diet well see how good this stuff works...

Good luck. What's your PCT going to be like? What are your goals for strength/mass?

im just gonna train hard and see what i come up with my oy gave me a bottle of clomid and a bottle of nolvadex so im just gonna figure out how i should do em any input?? i got that ai cycle support for while im on and im thinkin bout 6oxo for pct too but think it might be over kill???

I haven't read up much on clomid...that's on my to-do list. I've seen lots of PCTs that ramped down the nolva while inversely ramping up 6oxo. I have read several discussions about it & the logic is very sound. When you consider the risk of gyno, it's worth the extra $30 or so IMO. As soon as I get the chance (hopefully tomorrow), I'll post a bunch of stuff or PM you.

sweet let me know bro thanks

http://www.postcycletherapy.com/
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94545
http://www.bodybuilding.net/anabolic...-pct-9617.html

This is a pretty good start. I think the third link has info found mostly in the second link, but I threw it in anyway. I remember reading some journals where people posted their workouts, PCT, etc on some of the other boards. I'll post the links when/if I find them.

nice work but no clue still about how to dose these and that 6oxo sounds a lil risky to me?? thanks ross

If you look at the section titled "Discussion on running SERM inverse to ATD" at http://www.postcycletherapy.com/, it lists a sample PCT that looks pretty good to me. It has dosing on there. DHEA is pretty cheap...you can pick it up at Walmart for about $6/bottle. It will help with libido during PCT. ReboundXT (RXT) is or has ATD in it. You can buy ATD for very cheap at nutraplanet.com. Lean Xtreme (LX) & Retain2 are good for cortisol control. If I were you, I would do that sample PCT. Just read the entire page...it explains everything very plainly.

I was going to chime in, but ross has you covered ... I always run nolva inverse to serm, usually

nolva 40/30/20/10
ATD 0/25/25/50

although, I usually cut the ATD off at 25 for the most part. It drys my joints to bad that I just cant take it.

now is that days or weeks and what if i want to use nolva and clomid what should the doses be??

my bad i missed ross's reply well ill study up thanks guys

new measurments week 3

neck 16 1/2
chest 45 1/2
left bi flexed 17 1/4 flat 14 5/8
right bi flexed 17 1/4 flat 14 3/8
right thigh 23 calf 16 1/2
left thigh23 1/2 calf 16 1/2

i weigh 220 now!!!!! whoa strength is threw the roof no real examples cause im switchin it up alot but i hit the 110 dumbell incline 3x10 alot more than before but that could just be from sheer leverage of weighin 20 lbs more but yup no sides and less aggression than usual which is great im in a good mood all the time now and it feels good this guy got smart with me on friday and i started laughing at him and just shined it on but before i would have broke him off so not what i was expecting but its good

How long are you going to run this ?

Most ( from what I have heard) of the sides come from after you finish running a program. Your moods may change then.

10 weeks

How about an update? :)

Not exactly what you would expect given all the horrible "roid rage" stories the media pumps out. I'm glad things are going well for you shaun, keep hittin it hard homie.

yeah that chris benoit faggit really did a number on our good name but yup its all good an rollin smooth ill update tonight ross

alright I took my last dose yesterday... and
neck 17 1/4
chest 46.5
waist same
thigh right 25.25 left 25.25
calfs same
right arm flexed 17.25 flat 14 5/8
left arm flexed 17.25 flat 14 5/8
yeah benched 275 10 and 295 8 times legit reps sooooo strong for me and I can conclude that sustanon 250 should be taken twice a week I felt odd on sundays which was the farthest day from my shot maybe its iin my head but I was just kinda off.... and also 230lbs now so about 30 lbs total...

Congrats on the gains bro, how long till you start pct?

Looks like you had a good run. Congrats. How about some before and after pics? :)

don't really have any before and after well my avatar is b4 so ill try to put up a new one.... pct is suppose to be started 21 days after last shot with sus250... but my last shot was only 3/4 full so maybe 18 days cause I've heard n e where from 18 - 21 days... so I've got clomid and nolva but I think im gonna do just the clomid and get 11oxo 6oxo and tribbulis and save the nolva for my next one which will be more intense... what's atd by the way? or what about post cycle support from ai ? is that woth getting 2? let me know guys thanks