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Old 05-20-2008, 09:56 AM   #221 (permalink)
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well i dont exactly understand it all the way, but i do understand doing something 3 times a week like squats may seem easy on the first day but i know it can catch up to you. i figured as long as i dont let my pride doesnt get in the way i will be fine. and i am talkin about knowing i can throw up 5x5 at 365 or better on the bench but understand i cant do that after i squat.
Yeah, if you just underestimate a bit you'll be fine. It won't make a difference in the long run if it takes another week to reach your max and it certainly doesn't really matter what your "true" max ever was...just roundabout is fine.

Just like you pointed out what you can on bench after squats is different than what you can do fresh. In that way it really matters more what your maxes are when done in the actual routine environment rather than what they are in the best possible circumstance when your a fresh.

So the best solution is not to worry about all that and undershoot your starting weights a bit and you'll be fine.

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Old 05-21-2008, 05:08 AM   #222 (permalink)
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aight cool. thanks everybody for helping out.

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Old 05-21-2008, 05:51 PM   #223 (permalink)
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breakfast- 2 cups of basic 4 cereal and 4 eggs with 2 slices of cheese and a banana

lunch- 2 lean turkey burgers with cheese( they were backedm no bread no sauce) organic srping mix

lunch 2- 2 chicken breast a banana and a plum

snack- a pack of mixed nuts( heart healthy pack, low sodium)

PWO- eas protein shake

dinned- 8oz of beed shoulder and half a cup of bush's backed beans

when i go to bed- eas myoplex

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SQUATS-5X5 @ 275

STANDING MILITARY PRESS 5X5 185

DEADLIFT- (horrible) 5X5 @ 225 superset with wrist roller


ACCESSORIES- AB WHELL AND SHURGS



squats still didnt feel super heavy, but heavy enough to give me a workout. tempted to bump it to 315 next week but i will hold my horse. im gonna be patient like i said i will do in the first place and just add on another 2 to 3 weeks to the program if need be.


MP didnt feel super heavy but heavy enough for a workout. i think i went heavy enough on that though to maybe just bump it to 10 pounds instead of 20 next week


deads are the same as the rest. i can bump that up 20 pounds next week also. i superset with the wrist roller because my grip is stronger than my deads. so in order to give my forearms the workout it needs i just did that. (my numbers for this make me want to go crazy but i know i have to have pateince)


i eat vitamns and i just got some fishoil which i added today. even on my off days my diet is pretty much the same as what i post. today was just a day i picked out to eat some beeef. normaly it will just be chicken or turkey. the only differenc is yesterday i had 6 eggs instead of 4.

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Old 05-22-2008, 09:51 AM   #224 (permalink)
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Good stuff Monsta!! Go slow like you said and you will do fine.

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Old 05-23-2008, 07:06 AM   #225 (permalink)
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diet is still pretty much the same. havent changed much from lean turkey burgers, chicken breast, and yesterday i had some beef shoulder roast. but its more of the chicken and turkey on a regular. i eat some nuts (no homo) for snacks along with some fruits. im also eating this organic spring mix for vegetables. ill switch the vegetables up sooner or later. but my diet has been clean as possible. i can say the worst things i may have eat were some bushes backed beans and the beef. i havent eaten any bread, sauces, or anything of that nature


todays workout

squat- 5x5@ 275
bench- 5x5@ 275
pedley row- 5x5@ 185
accessories. ab wheel and curls



my foot is still real swollen. formm what i dont know. i think i hit it on somthing but i cant rememeber. but i been taking some tylenol a few hours before i lift and its been helpin. today since i worked out early and forgot the tylenol at work it didnt have enough time to go all the way through but it helped enough to where i didnt have to limp all crazy to the rack. this foot better fucking recognize ill cut this bitch off. aint nothing stoppign me from finishing this program . i hate stuff like tylenol but if i have to take it so be it. the foot is actualy gettign better but i knwo i cant squat on it. my shoulder is a little sore from a few weeks ago. both my shoulders where sore but it didnt hinder what i was doign so i didnt worry about it. they botth eventually were getting better so i didnt complain. my left one still feels a bit sore when i bench but i not worried abotu it until it hinders me. i just feel it right now but it doesnt feel like anything super major. i go to school this weekend so that means at least 2 massages. it should def help out the trouble areas. i can care less about actually fatigue or muscle soreness. but the stuff i mentioned arent normal like that. im working on them though so they wont stay a problem. i would say the worst thing are the foot and my lower back. dont know if i slept the wrong way or if my foot being messed up and changin up the way i walk has something to do with it, but my lower back near my lumbar just feel like it need so tbe cracked or something. when i went to do the rows i almost thought i couldnt do them.. but like i said nothing will hold me back. this is typed a little crazy but i am in a rush so the thoughts are all over the place..



all in all i completed all my reps and i like the workout. im used to more reps but it is taxing because you do squats 3 times a week which i like. some lifts i may go up more than 10 pounds next week but i may not. ill keep you guys posted

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Old 05-23-2008, 07:31 AM   #226 (permalink)
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diet is still pretty much the same. havent changed much from lean turkey burgers, chicken breast, and yesterday i had some beef shoulder roast. but its more of the chicken and turkey on a regular. i eat some nuts (no homo) for snacks along with some fruits. im also eating this organic spring mix for vegetables. ill switch the vegetables up sooner or later. but my diet has been clean as possible. i can say the worst things i may have eat were some bushes backed beans and the beef. i havent eaten any bread, sauces, or anything of that nature


todays workout

squat- 5x5@ 275
bench- 5x5@ 275
pedley row- 5x5@ 185
accessories. ab wheel and curls



my foot is still real swollen. formm what i dont know. i think i hit it on somthing but i cant rememeber. but i been taking some tylenol a few hours before i lift and its been helpin. today since i worked out early and forgot the tylenol at work it didnt have enough time to go all the way through but it helped enough to where i didnt have to limp all crazy to the rack. this foot better fucking recognize ill cut this bitch off. aint nothing stoppign me from finishing this program . i hate stuff like tylenol but if i have to take it so be it. the foot is actualy gettign better but i knwo i cant squat on it. my shoulder is a little sore from a few weeks ago. both my shoulders where sore but it didnt hinder what i was doign so i didnt worry about it. they botth eventually were getting better so i didnt complain. my left one still feels a bit sore when i bench but i not worried abotu it until it hinders me. i just feel it right now but it doesnt feel like anything super major. i go to school this weekend so that means at least 2 massages. it should def help out the trouble areas. i can care less about actually fatigue or muscle soreness. but the stuff i mentioned arent normal like that. im working on them though so they wont stay a problem. i would say the worst thing are the foot and my lower back. dont know if i slept the wrong way or if my foot being messed up and changin up the way i walk has something to do with it, but my lower back near my lumbar just feel like it need so tbe cracked or something. when i went to do the rows i almost thought i couldnt do them.. but like i said nothing will hold me back. this is typed a little crazy but i am in a rush so the thoughts are all over the place..



all in all i completed all my reps and i like the workout. im used to more reps but it is taxing because you do squats 3 times a week which i like. some lifts i may go up more than 10 pounds next week but i may not. ill keep you guys posted

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Old 05-23-2008, 07:05 PM   #227 (permalink)
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How many of the fish oil capsules do you take every day? I forgot to ask that when you said you added them to your daily supplements.

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Old 05-24-2008, 05:39 AM   #228 (permalink)
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Your foot is swollen because this program is cursed. Get it well soon - hopefully it's not holding your squat or DL back.

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Your foot is swollen because this program is cursed.
I don't think anyone will disagree.

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Old 05-24-2008, 10:29 AM   #230 (permalink)
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I've been thinking of the wrong program. I should have paid more attention to the numbers.

If cursed is another way of saying "ill-designed" and injury producing...then I agree.

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