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Old 04-23-2007, 06:24 PM   #1
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Ok Ive decied to begin Mark Rippetoe's starting strength program today and ill be keeping this journal of the progression.

Im 6'-2"
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And 22% BF

Ive never done many squats or deadlifts before so I think this will be a perfect routine for me. Ive decide to start with low weights on squats and DL's to work on my form knowing the weight will progress,...especially on the squats since they will be three times a week.
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Old 04-23-2007, 06:29 PM   #2
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4-23-07

Workout - A

Squat - 135 (yes I know this is low but I want to start off right and make sure I go all the way down there)
Bench - 155
Deadlift - 155
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It was a pretty easy day to start this off, the bench was the most difficult at these weights. I started low on the DL's and Squats since they are new to me.
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Old 04-24-2007, 04:42 AM   #3
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Good luck
I'm on Rippetoe's right now as well
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best of luck dude!!!
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Old 04-25-2007, 06:12 PM   #5
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4-25-07

Workout- B

Standing MP - 3x5 75lbs.
Squat - 3x5 145lbs.
Barbell Rows - 3x5 145 lbs.
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Nothing special...decided to jump the squat 10lbs instead of 5lbs cuz the first set was too easy.

I'm having strength problems with dips and pull-ups. I can only do about 2 of each and theyre difficult. I'm considering pulldowns and dips at the end of a bench with weights on my lap till my strength gets up.
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Old 04-25-2007, 07:03 PM   #6
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ive got the same problem with my pull-ups, i just do 4 sets of 2. idk how well it works cuz ive only been on it 3-4 weeks, but.

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Old 04-26-2007, 05:41 AM   #7
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Pulldowns don't transfer well to pullups. Just do the pullups each set to failure. (Yes, in this case it's kind of necessary to work it to failure...but NOT beyond). Add reps when you can.

If you are can do 10 lbs jumps on squats or deads or whatever do that and stick with it until you need to lower the jumps. If you should be doing 5 pounds then stick with that regardless of how easy it is. Don't make changes up and down with the increments. It's always best, btw, to start with the highest jumps you can make and then go down, rather than vice versa.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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Pulldowns don't transfer well to pullups.
I think i may have to disagree with this a bit. When i joined the Marine Corps I could only do 7 pullups. After boot camp, i could do 14. I blame this to fat loss. At the same time, i went in curling 80lbs a couple times. when i got out, i could barely curl 60lbs. So my strength definately went down. I went through a period where i didnt really train much at all and my pullups went down to 10. They are now at 18, a couple inches from 19, and i havent done very many sets of pullups in that time. Just WG pulldowns mostly, and some occasional underhand pulldowns. I'm also now 20 lbs heavier than after bootcamp. But i now incorporate pullups into my workouts, sets of 5 with a 25lb plate extra.
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Although i do agree it is a bit different form as you use more total body in pullups...including momentum ;-)
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The idea I was getting at is that the best way to train pullups is to do them and add reps when you can. They don't transfer WELL. But of course there would be some improvement versus training nothing.

Pullups are part and parcel with the starting strength. The best thing to do is not to worry about how many reps you can do but to just do it and add when you can. They are really meant as an assistance in this program if you do row as your main movement. Otherwise you can alternate rows with pullups or just do pullups.

I can knock out a good 35 reps at once when I'm fresh and 20 when I'm tired and that is from training pullups (and not really for high reps). I use around 45 extra pounds for high rep sets and 60 to 75 for sets of 5. Trust me pulldowns would not have gotten me there although I'll admit that pullups have always been something I can do well.

Although pulldowns of course will add to you pullups the fact is that pullups do more for pulldowns than the other way around. IMO, it is always a mistake to turn to a machine (pulley) to train a free weight or bodyweight movement. Just do the pullups and keep doing them. If Rippetoe were on here he'd chew someone out for doing pulldowns

The way the program is written, when pullups/chinups are done for assistance is 3 sets to failure adding reps until you them up fairly high. You can be very patient and try to get them up to the 12 range or you can get them to 8 and add a little weight. You could then go back to bodyweight and add more reps if possible. In other words you can play with them a little but the bottom line is to progress.

I'll have to disagree with your characterization of momentum in pullups Scorcher. With pulldowns you can lean back and use the lower back to generate "momentum". With pullups you can't. In fact any momentum you generate is from pure power unless you do "kipping pullups" which is a whole other story.
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