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Darkhorse · 10-06-2008, 07:14 PM

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think i might follow what the program says to do and start with 90% of my max..what do you guys think?

Where does it say that?

MusTGeTBiG · 10-07-2008, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkhorse

Where does it say that?

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EricT · 10-07-2008, 02:24 PM

I see....where he says he based his "waves" by subtracting 10% off his max (estimated).

MusTGeTBiG · 10-07-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric3237

I see....where he says he based his "waves" by subtracting 10% off his max (estimated).

Yes Sir

Darkhorse · 10-07-2008, 02:32 PM

Kinda what I thought. That's something you should definately do. I would!

EricT · 10-07-2008, 02:34 PM

I think that depends on how advanced you are. Some VERY advanced guys will need back offs in intensity as well as some way of managing volume.

What's interesting is that he say's his maxes shot up despite the fact that he was not really working according to his true max.

What you have to ask is why? For him...backing off from his max may be just what the doctor ordered. Call it a sort of deload. But for you it may not be necessary or desirable.

I, personally, wouldn't recommend undershooting your "max" that much working with a waved, percentage based program. But you really don't know what will happen until you do it. D might have a better informed opinion on this, though. It wouldn't work for me, I know.

I see that D was posting at the same time as me. I will point out that he is more advanced than I am at this point

Darkhorse · 10-07-2008, 09:44 PM

Oh, I only meant that most, if not all trainees don't know exactly what their rep maxes are, so it's better to err on the side of caution. Not so much a big 10% deduction lol. If Wendler's benching 600 lbs, running the program at a 10% deduction would certainly ellicit the gains he's after!

Also, I know most trainees aren't current lol. So when you ask them what their 1 RM squatting is, they'll toss out an all time PR from 6 months ago.

iron_worker · 10-08-2008, 07:15 AM

Thats what I like about where I'm at now. My squat and my deadlift PR were performed within the last 2 weeks. Bench has been lagging a bit I suppose but mostly due to shoulder problems.

Solid work in here. 295lbs squat ATG is pretty solid! I hope to be there soon.

IronWorker

MusTGeTBiG · 10-08-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by iron_worker

Thats what I like about where I'm at now. My squat and my deadlift PR were performed within the last 2 weeks. Bench has been lagging a bit I suppose but mostly due to shoulder problems.

Solid work in here. 295lbs squat ATG is pretty solid! I hope to be there soon.

IronWorker

thanks bro!

10/8/08 ME SQ/DL

Box Squats
Barx10
115x5
135x3
165x3
205x3
245x3
265x3(PR)
295x1
315x1
325x1(PR)

Reverse Hypers
15lb dumbellx10x4

Good Mornings
95x15
115x15x2

Pulldown Abs
100x10,7
95x10

Pitysister · 10-08-2008, 05:09 PM

nice pr's man.

10-07-2008, 02:24 PM	#153 (permalink)
EricT Moderator Rank: Heavyweight Experience: 7-10 Years Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,883 Country: Gender:	I see....where he says he based his "waves" by subtracting 10% off his max (estimated).
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10-07-2008, 02:32 PM	#155 (permalink)
Darkhorse Moderator Rank: Light Heavyweight Experience: 7-10 Years Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: CA Posts: 4,112 Country: Gender:	Kinda what I thought. That's something you should definately do. I would!
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10-07-2008, 02:34 PM	#156 (permalink)
EricT Moderator Rank: Heavyweight Experience: 7-10 Years Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,883 Country: Gender:	I think that depends on how advanced you are. Some VERY advanced guys will need back offs in intensity as well as some way of managing volume. What's interesting is that he say's his maxes shot up despite the fact that he was not really working according to his true max. What you have to ask is why? For him...backing off from his max may be just what the doctor ordered. Call it a sort of deload. But for you it may not be necessary or desirable. I, personally, wouldn't recommend undershooting your "max" that much working with a waved, percentage based program. But you really don't know what will happen until you do it. D might have a better informed opinion on this, though. It wouldn't work for me, I know. I see that D was posting at the same time as me. I will point out that he is more advanced than I am at this point
	EricT's Sig:I'm tired of the myth that bb'rs aren't flexible. As a group, they are extremely flexible. They have an amazing ability to bend over, place their heads between their legs, and blow smoke up their own asses. Books and Resources

10-07-2008, 09:44 PM	#157 (permalink)
Darkhorse Moderator Rank: Light Heavyweight Experience: 7-10 Years Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: CA Posts: 4,112 Country: Gender:	Oh, I only meant that most, if not all trainees don't know exactly what their rep maxes are, so it's better to err on the side of caution. Not so much a big 10% deduction lol. If Wendler's benching 600 lbs, running the program at a 10% deduction would certainly ellicit the gains he's after! Also, I know most trainees aren't current lol. So when you ask them what their 1 RM squatting is, they'll toss out an all time PR from 6 months ago.
	Darkhorse's Sig:My Training Philosophy Orange County Strength Club

10-08-2008, 05:09 PM	#160 (permalink)
Pitysister Rank: Middleweight Experience: 1-2 Years Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Midwest Posts: 2,546 Country: Gender:	nice pr's man.
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10-08-2008, 07:15 AM	#158 (permalink)
iron_worker Rank: Lightweight Experience: > 1 Year Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, Sk, Canada Posts: 1,103 Country: Gender:	Thats what I like about where I'm at now. My squat and my deadlift PR were performed within the last 2 weeks. Bench has been lagging a bit I suppose but mostly due to shoulder problems. Solid work in here. 295lbs squat ATG is pretty solid! I hope to be there soon. IronWorker

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