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Old 05-29-2006, 11:27 PM   #21
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INJURY UPDATE:

ok so i went to my doc yesterday....its tissue damage.....i start physio-therapy from today and its gonna take 6 weeks before i am at my 100%....

i am however allowed to swim a bit and i started doing that yesterday (i used to be a swimmer before judo and squash)....

my ROM has improved greatly in the last 2 days, but there's a little weakness still present....

i hope everything gets alright soon..

btw: i think in a few weeks, i am gonna be allowed to lift weights again...and i plan on doing Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength for Beginners program all over again till i regain all my strength.....of course that means i will start the program by deadlifting 10 kgs lol....

lets see what happens

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Old 05-29-2006, 11:52 PM   #22
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Hmmm, I don't think lifting in the heavy 5 RM is going to help your rehab after you're done healing. More to the point, just because the first week of P.T. doesn't have you lifting heavy weights doesn't mean it's shit neither. I see everyone on bb.com doing Rippetoe's program, as well they all should, but you cannot confuse always hitting PR's with lifting 60% of your max..

Might as well repost what I put up in your IM journal:

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For anyone marvelling about the daily volume of the first week, I might as well throw this in... The first week is the hardest. It looks worse than it actually is (excluding legs). High volume workouts with shock techniques added is where most of your sarcoplasmic hypertrophy comes from. It is hell on muscle metabolism, and causes the most DOMS. More burn sets means more occlusion and more lactate. These are necessary to release local growth factor hormones.

The farther you drain your muscle energy reserves of ATP and glycogen at once, the stronger the signal to produce extra mitochondria. Skeletal muscle normally has relatively few mitochondria and therefore a limited ability to perform anerobic contractions. When new mitochondria are produced, they bring with them extra stores of energy to work with. This produces increased muscle size, albeit without new strength. The extra energy stores do however carry over to other training phases so that more work can be done in them, this will make them more productive.
There's a purpose for everything. I thought I read something somewhere about you not having the best nutrition, which aside from not warming up or improper form would cause a bad injury. Anyways, either way, if you want PR's, then go for PR's, if you want to at least finish something challenging, then do this one. I just have this nagging feeling that if you weren't seeing everyone's journals at bb.com doing 3x5 for everything, you'd at least heal and try this program again.

Sorry to hear you got injured. Take it from me, mind games start to play with you in the mirror. My advice is to focus on nutrition, stay active (such as walking) to stimulate blood flow, and don't look in the mirror. You shouldn't lose very much, and whatever you do, muscle memory is a wonderful thing. I took two months off of any chest pressing after my light tear, and it didn't take long to gain it all back. Take it as a learning experience..More warming up, eating more of the right things, and dropping the weights down and concentrating on perfect form.

If you have any questions pm me. When the time is right, and you're just about healed, I'll be happy to give you a spreadsheet of the workouts I used to get back into it..Full body HST.

I know how you are..DON'T PUSH IT! Grab some r & r....

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Old 05-30-2006, 07:01 AM   #23
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More to the point, just because the first week of P.T. doesn't have you lifting heavy weights doesn't mean it's shit neither.
sir, i do not think PT is shit....i thought i'd do Mark's program was because its so basic that it'll help me recover my strength.....

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if you want PR's, then go for PR's, if you want to at least finish something challenging, then do this one.
uummm.......i WANT to do PT sir, but i cant until this injury is healed.....so in the interim, as soon as i am allowed by my physiotherapist to start lifting (which should be by next week or so) i thought i'd do mark's program because i can do it with very light weights and slowly increase...its not a question of setting new PRs OR taking up a huge challenge OR combining the two: its about being able to lift again properly....

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I just have this nagging feeling that if you weren't seeing everyone's journals at bb.com doing 3x5 for everything, you'd at least heal and try this program again.
you think i plan on abandoning this program for ever....? i am only waiting for my shoulder to return to normal...which should take a max of 6 weeks....

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Sorry to hear you got injured. Take it from me, mind games start to play with you in the mirror. My advice is to focus on nutrition, stay active (such as walking) to stimulate blood flow, and don't look in the mirror. You shouldn't lose very much, and whatever you do, muscle memory is a wonderful thing. I took two months off of any chest pressing after my light tear, and it didn't take long to gain it all back. Take it as a learning experience..More warming up, eating more of the right things, and dropping the weights down and concentrating on perfect form.
thanks a million for the suggestions.....i am seriously shit scared every time i look in the mirror....but since i am gonna be swimming so much (i'll fill you guys in about the distance i swim per day later), i dont think i'll lose any muscle at all...and i plan on eating good food (sorry, but sleeping properly aint gonna happen ) and i think in the end, i'll just come out a little leaner...i'll post pics every now and then though so you guys can tell me where i am going....

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If you have any questions pm me. When the time is right, and you're just about healed, I'll be happy to give you a spreadsheet of the workouts I used to get back into it..Full body HST.
hey thanks..... so does that mean that when my physiotherapist gives me the thumbs up, i should pm you for the program...? because that might happen soon....in fact, your idea of doing HST is pretty good...because with HST i'll recover both in terms of strength AND mass and then i'll be perfect to start PT.....thanks sir....

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I know how you are..DON'T PUSH IT! Grab some r & r....
you know me.....definitely...."DON'T PUSH IT!"......so much like me.....

once again: thank you 0311....i really appreciate your input....

but i just want to clarify this with you once:

is this what you feel i should do:

1.) get the ok from my physio-therapist
2.) pm you about HST
3.) start the recovery HST program
4.) heal 100%
5.) start pendulum again

also, do you feel i cant do any particular exercises ever again...? i mean, is it like i cannot strain myself on the bench press ever again...? i would ask my doc, but i am meeting him next monday, and i want to know for now... oh, and if its not good for me to bench heavy, then lets say in the future i decide to do 5x5, then how would i handle not having the bench press...? infact, why only 5x5: how will i handle not doing bench press period..? i mean, not mentally, but is there some kind of substitute exercise there...?

thanks again 0311

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Old 05-30-2006, 08:42 AM   #24
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sorry to hear about your injury, get better soon.
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thanks dave

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Hope you recover quickly Anuj
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Old 05-30-2006, 08:12 PM   #27
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thanks verb......i hope so too...

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