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Old 09-18-2007, 04:51 PM   #501 (permalink)
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eric, i knew u would say no to the hammer strength machine!!!!! i just wanted to do it because well.....since i cant do rows due to my back i just wanted to do something else and i love the hammer strength rows...they feel great but i see ur point. if i do the hammer strength rows i think i might rest-pause

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ok ill stick to plan. got ur pm. will respond in a bit. thanks.

i hope ur not misunderstanding but when i say chins i mean chins and when i say pull-ups i mean pull-ups. i was talking about replacing chins on upper 1 with machine rows. im not taking out pull-ups nor even thinking of that. im just bored with chins and i find it hard to do them with good form coz well its a mental thing and if u want i will tell my mind to shut the fuck up and let my body do all the talking

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Old 09-18-2007, 05:11 PM   #502 (permalink)
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OH. So you are thinking of chins and pullups as two different exercises? Why the hell for. There's not real difference except for the grip and chins can be a bitch for some because of the unnatural nature of the grip. Screw that man. If you want to do pullups do pullups. If you do a buch of pullups and feel like you can eek out more reps by switching to a chin grip then do that. It doesn't make a real difference to the back muscles and all that and really the biggest thing it affects is the biceps. But do the one that allows you to do the MOST.

I actually didn't realize you were doing "chins" in upper 1 as opposed to pullups. You would probably have improved more on pullups if you were doing mostly pullups on both.

When I personally say chins or pullups I am using them interchaneably meaning do whatever the fuck you want. I do mostly pullups and then chins to get more in because doing all chins hurts my forearms (in a bad way) so that's not very productive for me plus I get better range of motion with pullups.

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Old 09-18-2007, 10:35 PM   #503 (permalink)
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CARDIO UPDATE

ok so i went running today....no, not on an eliptical OR a treadmill. i ACTUALLY ran on the running track 12 laps. 3 miles. fuck it was difficult.

i havent run in the last 2-3 years. as u can only imagine, i am suffering from intense shin splints right now lol. i have to learn to run on my toes from now on.

here's how i ran....each lap = 1/4 of a mile.

i ran half a lap and walked half a lap. when i ran i was sprinting like a madman and when i walked i could've given a turtle a complex.

this cardio is working pretty well for me. my weight is the same but im looking better. haha....

my diet has been pretty good too.....lots of meat and veggies. monday to friday i guess are all high carb days and saturday and sunday are very very low carb days.....i didnt even know i was doing this lol....

anyways, tomorrow is deadlift day. see y'all then

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Old 09-19-2007, 06:13 AM   #504 (permalink)
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^^ Running like a sprinter will get you looking like a sprinter, very nice anuj. All I would say about the cardio is, if your shins are really killing you, ease into it, we all want to constantly push our limits, but there is no use in running to the point that you have to take a week off cause your shins cant take it. Just food for thought.

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Old 09-19-2007, 08:51 AM   #505 (permalink)
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^^^ thanks for the advice matt

i actually something like HIIT cardio. except i didnt use time as a variable: i used distance instead

regarding getting into it gradually: i agree with u: i could've done another 5-6 laps but i decided not to because i want to take this slow my biggest problem is that i have to learn to run on my toes and not on my heel. but, ill do that soon...

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OH. So you are thinking of chins and pullups as two different exercises? Why the hell for. There's not real difference except for the grip and chins can be a bitch for some because of the unnatural nature of the grip. Screw that man. If you want to do pullups do pullups. If you do a buch of pullups and feel like you can eek out more reps by switching to a chin grip then do that. It doesn't make a real difference to the back muscles and all that and really the biggest thing it affects is the biceps. But do the one that allows you to do the MOST.

I actually didn't realize you were doing "chins" in upper 1 as opposed to pullups. You would probably have improved more on pullups if you were doing mostly pullups on both.

When I personally say chins or pullups I am using them interchaneably meaning do whatever the fuck you want. I do mostly pullups and then chins to get more in because doing all chins hurts my forearms (in a bad way) so that's not very productive for me plus I get better range of motion with pullups.
yeah Eric...haha....i took chins and chins and pull-ups were seperate. i like ur idea though: do pull-ups and then crank out a few reps at the end of it. i like that. so Eric, is this ok then:

on upper 1 i dont do chins or pull-ups. i only do the hammer strength rows. i dont want to do pull-ups 2x a week, E. if u dont want me to do hammer rows what else would u recommend? on upper 2 i do pull-ups and chin-ups in the combination u suggested.

what do u feel, sir?

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Old 09-19-2007, 01:24 PM   #507 (permalink)
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You don't need to do pullups twice a week if it's not working for you.

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Machines suck. I thought you were already doing cable rows. That's in upper 2 right? I would advise a uni db row or a supported row off a bench using db's or something. Machines make it seem easier is all. That's laziness not boredom creeping in on the pullups, sounds to me.
Listen I'm not just downing the machine for the heck of it. You have a history of shoulder problems. The last thing you want to do is force yourself into a fixed and unnatural plane of motion.

There are also different kinds of rows you can do with the pulley. You can do high-low or low-high for instance. Be creative.

BTW, did you run in cross-trainers?

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You don't need to do pullups twice a week if it's not working for you.
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Listen I'm not just downing the machine for the heck of it. You have a history of shoulder problems. The last thing you want to do is force yourself into a fixed and unnatural plane of motion.
ok sir. i didnt think of this at all. ok now i understand why u said no to the machine rows. sorry sir.

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There are also different kinds of rows you can do with the pulley. You can do high-low or low-high for instance. Be creative.
ok sir. i think thats a good idea.

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The cross-trainers may have contributed somewhat to the shin splints. Of course they are to be expected but cross-trainers are not so great for running, imo. Over engineered. You should get some simple running shoes.

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ok sir. ill do that ASAP

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