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EricT · 05-23-2008, 04:06 PM

Hithopper, Wolf, Pity and others (sorry if I left anyone out) all should have some good vids of their MP's which will show you good elbow position. I'm sure they'll shoot you some links to those.

I looked through the journals but they are so LONG, probably due to my longwinded ass

Pitysister · 05-23-2008, 05:32 PM

these are the only ones i got...elbows may need to be out a little more forward...at least i think that's what eric said

http://s219.photobucket.com/albums/c...t=MOV00081.flv

http://s219.photobucket.com/albums/c...t=MOV00080.flv

EricT · 05-24-2008, 10:55 AM

Yes, it would be better to have you elbows a bit more in front of the bar...but that is a minor point compard to having your elbows flared out, which you don't. So look at his arm compared to yours, Dark.

Darkvision · 05-26-2008, 04:08 PM

Guys, I just found this super disturbing page from my training log exactly one year ago.

check out these numbers...

wtf. compare them to my current numbers...

wow.

huge progress in a year =[

the check means I completed it. check minus means the last set sucked.

edit: LMAO I think I just got it. look at my row! I wasn't adding 5, or even 2.5 lbs to the bar each workout.. it's like going in the gym benching the same amount of weight for a year and wondering why you're not growing, right?

HIThopper · 05-27-2008, 02:03 AM

Sorry just saw this about press

Some vids

You Tube

You Tube

Hope this helps some

Darkvision · 05-28-2008, 03:03 PM

thanks for those vids man!

oh and thanks again everyone for taking the time to help me out on my super cool quest of muscular strength

grr just posted before but it never went through somehow... anyways.. to sum it up..

update:

5-27-08 A workout

SQUAT - 195
BENCH - 115*
DEADLIFT - 280

*remember in my older thread that weird muscle growing on the tops of my shoulders? well that's where I feel the pushing force when I bench, maybe it's a form issue.. and that's all that gets sore afterwards. I NEVER feel it in my chest muscles...and my chest isn't growing either. but those weird shoulder muscles sure are growing nice and big. any ideas?

widdoes2504 · 05-28-2008, 06:47 PM

I would probably guess that your shoulders are taking the brunt of the force for you on the bench. Try shifting to dumbbells for awhile and to better focus on your chest, pause slightly at the bottom of the movement and squeeze your chest at the top for a moment. Should help a bit. Good luck.

iron_worker · 05-28-2008, 07:05 PM

You might also be flaring your elbows too much much. Keep your elbows within 45 degrees of your sides. You may also have too wide of a grip?

IronWorker

HIThopper · 05-29-2008, 01:38 AM

Learn to arch when you bench,sounds like a bad case of flat back to me, get them scapula pinched together, and push them hard into the bench, set your feet and really try to drive those shoulders into the bench.Heres a cool westside article that helped me I used to have the same problems staying arched and tight and keeping my shoulders pinned down.Used to get the same sore lumpy feel in my right shoulder too.

http://www.elitefts.com/documents/step_up.htm

and a good vid Wolf posted a while back too

You Tube

Darkvision · 05-29-2008, 02:57 PM

BALLIN' !!!!

haha ok, endorphins.

5-29-08 B WORKOUT

Squat - 200 yeaah!! =]

Press - uhh.. I corrected my form and decided to slap on more weight.. too much at 95 pounds total, my form sucked and I failed on the second set, so next workout I'm going to bump it back down to 85.

Row - 100, good. seemed too easy.

05-23-2008, 04:06 PM	#11 (permalink)
EricT Moderator Rank: Heavyweight Experience: 7-10 Years Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,883 Country: Gender:	Hithopper, Wolf, Pity and others (sorry if I left anyone out) all should have some good vids of their MP's which will show you good elbow position. I'm sure they'll shoot you some links to those. I looked through the journals but they are so LONG, probably due to my longwinded ass
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05-23-2008, 05:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
Pitysister Rank: Middleweight Experience: 1-2 Years Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Midwest Posts: 2,546 Country: Gender:	these are the only ones i got...elbows may need to be out a little more forward...at least i think that's what eric said http://s219.photobucket.com/albums/c...t=MOV00081.flv http://s219.photobucket.com/albums/c...t=MOV00080.flv
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05-24-2008, 10:55 AM	#13 (permalink)
EricT Moderator Rank: Heavyweight Experience: 7-10 Years Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,883 Country: Gender:	Yes, it would be better to have you elbows a bit more in front of the bar...but that is a minor point compard to having your elbows flared out, which you don't. So look at his arm compared to yours, Dark.
	EricT's Sig:I'm tired of the myth that bb'rs aren't flexible. As a group, they are extremely flexible. They have an amazing ability to bend over, place their heads between their legs, and blow smoke up their own asses. Books and Resources

05-28-2008, 06:47 PM	#17 (permalink)
widdoes2504 Rank: Lightweight Experience: 10+ Years Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 1,280 Country: Gender:	I would probably guess that your shoulders are taking the brunt of the force for you on the bench. Try shifting to dumbbells for awhile and to better focus on your chest, pause slightly at the bottom of the movement and squeeze your chest at the top for a moment. Should help a bit. Good luck.
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05-26-2008, 04:08 PM	#14 (permalink)
Darkvision Rank: Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 113	Guys, I just found this super disturbing page from my training log exactly one year ago. check out these numbers... wtf. compare them to my current numbers... wow. huge progress in a year =[ the check means I completed it. check minus means the last set sucked. edit: LMAO I think I just got it. look at my row! I wasn't adding 5, or even 2.5 lbs to the bar each workout.. it's like going in the gym benching the same amount of weight for a year and wondering why you're not growing, right?

05-28-2008, 03:03 PM	#16 (permalink)
Darkvision Rank: Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 113	thanks for those vids man! oh and thanks again everyone for taking the time to help me out on my super cool quest of muscular strength grr just posted before but it never went through somehow... anyways.. to sum it up.. update: 5-27-08 A workout SQUAT - 195 BENCH - 115* DEADLIFT - 280 *remember in my older thread that weird muscle growing on the tops of my shoulders? well that's where I feel the pushing force when I bench, maybe it's a form issue.. and that's all that gets sore afterwards. I NEVER feel it in my chest muscles...and my chest isn't growing either. but those weird shoulder muscles sure are growing nice and big. any ideas?

05-28-2008, 07:05 PM	#18 (permalink)
iron_worker Rank: Lightweight Experience: > 1 Year Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Saskatoon, Sk, Canada Posts: 1,103 Country: Gender:	You might also be flaring your elbows too much much. Keep your elbows within 45 degrees of your sides. You may also have too wide of a grip? IronWorker

05-29-2008, 02:57 PM	#20 (permalink)
Darkvision Rank: Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 113	BALLIN' !!!! haha ok, endorphins. 5-29-08 B WORKOUT Squat - 200 yeaah!! =] Press - uhh.. I corrected my form and decided to slap on more weight.. too much at 95 pounds total, my form sucked and I failed on the second set, so next workout I'm going to bump it back down to 85. Row - 100, good. seemed too easy.

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