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Old 01-02-2009, 10:55 PM   #1031
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Old 01-03-2009, 12:33 AM   #1032
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Deadlifts from 3" blocks - 245X2, 245X4, 335X2, 385X1, 445X0, 385X2, 405X1
Hypers w/ SSB - 3X5

These deadlifts were harder than pulling from the floor. It sucks that every day that I lift something heavy, I can't go to sleep at night. It's 3:30am & I'm still wide awake. This happens every week...wah.............................

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Old 01-03-2009, 01:13 AM   #1033
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Nice Rossco, PRs a plenty up in here.Good job.What you weighing nowdays mate?
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Old 01-03-2009, 07:55 AM   #1034
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Thanks Hits. I weigh right around 190lbs (86 kilos?). I don't know how big I want to get because the original plan was to get to 200 and I'm awfully close.

I'm getting a lot of pressure right now to do a competition near the end of February. I would be lifting raw and the main point is to get some experience. Personally I don't want to compete until I get my numbers up, but there will be...5 people minimum competing from my gym. It's a lot to think about.
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Old 01-03-2009, 08:02 AM   #1035
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I was told that if you wait for specific numbers you will never compete.

Just do it , Ross.
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Old 01-03-2009, 08:48 AM   #1036
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I think you're probably right, TALO. But, you know, someone was just saying, I think it was Joe Hashey, about setting goals...

...that you should not set your "goals" for something like "be able to compete" but specific targets, like numbers, or other goals because you can CONTROL that but you can't control who will be in the competition and how on they will be.

So I think it makes sense to compete if you want to compete but don't make "competing" part of your goal structure.

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If you act sanctimonious I will just list out your logical fallacies until you get pissed off and spew blasphemous remarks.
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Old 01-03-2009, 08:54 AM   #1037
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I agree with Joe Hashey then.

I've been planning on doing a competition in the fall. If I stay relatively healthy, then I will have reached the minimum numbers that I want to compete at. BUT, I won't have experience and I'm possibly setting myself up for disappointment if I get where I want to be and I under perform. So that's why I'm thinking about doing the competition...and because I'm harassed about it every week. My primarily goal is still to do a competition in the fall and I can treat this meet as a preparatory thing. I know lots of guys do small meets for practice before they have a big meet. I think it's the same general idea.
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Old 01-03-2009, 09:02 AM   #1038
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I don't want to read into you're being embarrased but it will definitely negatively impact your training if you focus too much on other peoples strength, or expectations.

You know, it's hard to believe, but most people could care less what you lift. And if they do care about that..then fuck 'em. What they should care about is seeing you get better.

I think competition is a great thing. And if can really help give you a champion mindset. It can be grueling and so can help get you mentally tougher. But the "end user" mindset (as Will Brink coined it) is not a long term mindset because as soon as dissapointment happens, then suddenly the "value" is not there.

But when you do the thing for the intrinsic value of the thing itself, you can weather disappointment. Then competition is just icing on the cake.
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Old 01-03-2009, 09:20 AM   #1039
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I was embarrassed about competing with low numbers when I thought about competing several months ago, but I'm completely, 100% over that now. The numbers I want to reach are a benchmark of my total progress. I want to feel like I've done something before I go to a meet. The last one I went to, there were some guys doing <200 bench presses, <250 squats, and <300 deadlifts. I guess that's good and all, but I didn't think they deserved to be on the same stage as the guys that had put in years of hard work. It was a mockery....almost.

I keep saying "competing" and "competition", but until this morning, I never really considered that there would be other people I'm "lifting against" at the meet. I really don't care one bit about that. For me, the competition is about training with goals, peaking, and then hitting PRs under pressure and making those numbers concrete.

The guys I train with now are the best ever. I feel stronger just by training in that environment. So far, someone has hit a PR during every single training session. I get loads of good encouragement. The other benefit that they keep mentioning from competing in this meet is that I'll be in a good environment since so many of the guys from the gym would be there with me. If I compete in the fall, I might be solo.

If I don't hit the numbers I want at the meet, then I'll be more motivated. That's the way it always works for me. I hate it when important things lose their intrinsic value. It's a pretty bad feeling if you're aware enough to notice. I do wonder how I will feel after I do a meet in the fall.
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Old 01-03-2009, 10:53 AM   #1040
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Couldn't agree more. Good attitude.
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