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TALO · 03-28-2008, 11:08 AM

Add a cup of nuts to your daily intake , aprox 1000 cals , cheap and effective.

Ross86 · 03-28-2008, 11:57 AM

I'll add it to the grocery list. I think the weight loss is not so much a problem of calories as it is atrophied muscle. My diet hasn't been bad...I've lost 3lbs though. I wonder what the rate of muscle mass due to atrophy is. I know it depends on overall mass, metabolic rate, etc. Maybe my calories haven't been high enough. I will start logging it on fitday again.

TALO · 03-28-2008, 12:01 PM

fitday makes a huge difference. I always find it amazing at how low my calories are , when it seems I eat all the time.

Eric3237 · 03-28-2008, 01:12 PM

Ross, I don't know, of course how much detraining you've gotten but when you DO detrain there are other things besides just lean mass that can cause some short term decreases in weight. One thing is that your body begins to store less glycogen. And thus less water. That can account for some of it. A little may be protein loss but I doubt it's anything significant. I any case a 3 pound fluctuation would be considered normal and insignificant for most individuals.

Look at it this way. Part of becoming a "trained" individual is that your muscles store more stuff. Heck, if you do enough in the realm of endurance even your blood volume increases. So the reverse is also true which means that detraining causes you body to begin storing less stuff. How long that takes depends on a whole lot of factors, of course.

Ross86 · 04-02-2008, 07:27 AM

Monday's Workout
Military press - 3X8 125
Flat DB Press - 3X6 75
Squats - 3X8 245

Weight - 173

Still down 5 lbs. Don't know how I lost 5 lbs in 3 weeks...that's what gets me. I must have starved myself to create a sufficient caloric deficit in that amount of time to lose that much weight. I'm not losing any more, thank goodness.

widdoes2504 · 04-02-2008, 07:31 AM

Ross, sorry to hear about the weight loss. I am glad to hear it stopped. Take care of yourself.

Ross86 · 04-02-2008, 11:14 AM

Lat pulls Front - 2X8 135
Rear - 2X8 105
Pull ups - 1X8
Shrugs - 3X10 55, 75, 85
Deadlifts - 4X8 225
Cardio

Weight - 173

Thanks Widdoes. I'm going to up my calories a bit, I think. Good workout today.

Ross86 · 04-04-2008, 12:44 PM

Bench press - 3X8 185
Squats - 3X12 225, 245, 245
Arnolds - 3X8 50, 55, 60
Rows - 1X5 90, 2X8 70

Good back workout on Wednesday. Today I was a little hurried. I am going to improve my pre workout nutrition next week and take the time I need in the gym. Still loving 3X12 for squats...12 reps is a long ass set for me.

MusTGeTBiG · 04-04-2008, 12:49 PM

Nice squating bro..

Pitysister · 04-04-2008, 06:55 PM

no doubt man...12 reps would suck

props.

03-28-2008, 11:08 AM	#191 (permalink)
TALO Rank: Lightweight Experience: 5-7 Years Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Alberta , Canada Posts: 1,940 Country: Gender:	Add a cup of nuts to your daily intake , aprox 1000 cals , cheap and effective.
	TALO's Sig:"But when do you actually grow? Well, we don't grow in the gym. In the gym, we destroy. We tear down the body. We only grow when we are recovering. That's right, I said recovery. I see it all the time--people beating themselves up in the gym and not seeing results. They don't understand that hitting the weights hard is only a small part of growing or even cutting down. I could train the same all year round and get big or get ripped just by eating different and taking different supplements"

03-28-2008, 11:57 AM	#192 (permalink)
Ross86 Rank: Lightweight Experience: > 1 Year Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NC Posts: 1,948 Country: Gender:	I'll add it to the grocery list. I think the weight loss is not so much a problem of calories as it is atrophied muscle. My diet hasn't been bad...I've lost 3lbs though. I wonder what the rate of muscle mass due to atrophy is. I know it depends on overall mass, metabolic rate, etc. Maybe my calories haven't been high enough. I will start logging it on fitday again.
	Ross86's Sig:"Excuses are the building blocks to a monument of nothingness" - Anonymous "You hang out with monkey's you may get shit in the face. "Shit happens"...OPINION. "Monkey's throw shit"...FACT." - Eric3237 Stone Black

03-28-2008, 12:01 PM	#193 (permalink)
TALO Rank: Lightweight Experience: 5-7 Years Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Alberta , Canada Posts: 1,940 Country: Gender:	fitday makes a huge difference. I always find it amazing at how low my calories are , when it seems I eat all the time.
	TALO's Sig:"But when do you actually grow? Well, we don't grow in the gym. In the gym, we destroy. We tear down the body. We only grow when we are recovering. That's right, I said recovery. I see it all the time--people beating themselves up in the gym and not seeing results. They don't understand that hitting the weights hard is only a small part of growing or even cutting down. I could train the same all year round and get big or get ripped just by eating different and taking different supplements"

03-28-2008, 01:12 PM	#194 (permalink)
Eric3237 Moderator Rank: Heavyweight Experience: 7-10 Years Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,476 Country: Gender:	Ross, I don't know, of course how much detraining you've gotten but when you DO detrain there are other things besides just lean mass that can cause some short term decreases in weight. One thing is that your body begins to store less glycogen. And thus less water. That can account for some of it. A little may be protein loss but I doubt it's anything significant. I any case a 3 pound fluctuation would be considered normal and insignificant for most individuals. Look at it this way. Part of becoming a "trained" individual is that your muscles store more stuff. Heck, if you do enough in the realm of endurance even your blood volume increases. So the reverse is also true which means that detraining causes you body to begin storing less stuff. How long that takes depends on a whole lot of factors, of course.
	Eric3237's Sig:Anybody can talk a lot. Smart people listen... -Son's first grade teacher

04-02-2008, 07:27 AM	#195 (permalink)
Ross86 Rank: Lightweight Experience: > 1 Year Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NC Posts: 1,948 Country: Gender:	Monday's Workout Military press - 3X8 125 Flat DB Press - 3X6 75 Squats - 3X8 245 Weight - 173 Still down 5 lbs. Don't know how I lost 5 lbs in 3 weeks...that's what gets me. I must have starved myself to create a sufficient caloric deficit in that amount of time to lose that much weight. I'm not losing any more, thank goodness.
	Ross86's Sig:"Excuses are the building blocks to a monument of nothingness" - Anonymous "You hang out with monkey's you may get shit in the face. "Shit happens"...OPINION. "Monkey's throw shit"...FACT." - Eric3237 Stone Black

04-02-2008, 07:31 AM	#196 (permalink)
widdoes2504 Rank: Lightweight Experience: 10+ Years Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 1,216 Country: Gender:	Ross, sorry to hear about the weight loss. I am glad to hear it stopped. Take care of yourself.
	widdoes2504's Sig:Height: 6 foot Weight: 240 pounds Bench: 415 (1x1) Deads: 565 (1x1) A2G Squat: 425 (1x1) Cardio sucks

04-02-2008, 11:14 AM	#197 (permalink)
Ross86 Rank: Lightweight Experience: > 1 Year Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NC Posts: 1,948 Country: Gender:	Lat pulls Front - 2X8 135 Rear - 2X8 105 Pull ups - 1X8 Shrugs - 3X10 55, 75, 85 Deadlifts - 4X8 225 Cardio Weight - 173 Thanks Widdoes. I'm going to up my calories a bit, I think. Good workout today.
	Ross86's Sig:"Excuses are the building blocks to a monument of nothingness" - Anonymous "You hang out with monkey's you may get shit in the face. "Shit happens"...OPINION. "Monkey's throw shit"...FACT." - Eric3237 Stone Black

04-04-2008, 12:44 PM	#198 (permalink)
Ross86 Rank: Lightweight Experience: > 1 Year Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NC Posts: 1,948 Country: Gender:	Bench press - 3X8 185 Squats - 3X12 225, 245, 245 Arnolds - 3X8 50, 55, 60 Rows - 1X5 90, 2X8 70 Good back workout on Wednesday. Today I was a little hurried. I am going to improve my pre workout nutrition next week and take the time I need in the gym. Still loving 3X12 for squats...12 reps is a long ass set for me.
	Ross86's Sig:"Excuses are the building blocks to a monument of nothingness" - Anonymous "You hang out with monkey's you may get shit in the face. "Shit happens"...OPINION. "Monkey's throw shit"...FACT." - Eric3237 Stone Black

04-04-2008, 12:49 PM	#199 (permalink)
MusTGeTBiG Rank: Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 143 Gender:	Nice squating bro..
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04-04-2008, 06:55 PM	#200 (permalink)
Pitysister Rank: Lightweight Experience: 1-2 Years Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,987 Country: Gender:	no doubt man...12 reps would suck props.
	Pitysister's Sig:Born the travesty of man Regular pulse midst pandemonium You're plucked to the mass Parched with thirst for the wicked

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