TALO

Nov 19

squat 5*5*325
Leg Press 10*1*540,8*1*630
Stiff Legged Dead's 6@225,10@135
Leg Curls 10@160,10@160
calve raises 15@180,15*4*270
abs : cruches,leg lifts,weighte pull downs

TALO's Sig:

"But when do you actually grow? Well, we don't grow in the gym. In the gym, we destroy. We tear down the body. We only grow when we are recovering. That's right, I said recovery. I see it all the time--people beating themselves up in the gym and not seeing results. They don't understand that hitting the weights hard is only a small part of growing or even cutting down. I could train the same all year round and get big or get ripped just by eating different and taking different supplements"

TALO

NOV 20

Bench : warmup 2*10*135 plus 55lb chains per side.
5*5*235
Incline 10*185 , 6*205 - took off 35's and did another 6 *135
Decline bench 10* 205, 10*205

Decline is always easier. Quick workout today, but still went hard.
also had a very good stretch and did some cardio.

TALO's Sig:

"But when do you actually grow? Well, we don't grow in the gym. In the gym, we destroy. We tear down the body. We only grow when we are recovering. That's right, I said recovery. I see it all the time--people beating themselves up in the gym and not seeing results. They don't understand that hitting the weights hard is only a small part of growing or even cutting down. I could train the same all year round and get big or get ripped just by eating different and taking different supplements"

TALO

Nov 21

Military 2*10*95 (warmup) 5*5*145
Side raises 3*10*38's (dumbbells)
Dead's 5*5*285
Chins 2*10 with body
Rows 2*10*185
shrugs 1*10*315, 1*8*405
Bent over side raise 2*10*28's

Not a bad workout...I don't think I'm going to get to much stronger with this program

TALO's Sig:

"But when do you actually grow? Well, we don't grow in the gym. In the gym, we destroy. We tear down the body. We only grow when we are recovering. That's right, I said recovery. I see it all the time--people beating themselves up in the gym and not seeing results. They don't understand that hitting the weights hard is only a small part of growing or even cutting down. I could train the same all year round and get big or get ripped just by eating different and taking different supplements"

Eric3237

Hey, bro I just noticed your warmups are a little much and are not really structured optimally. They may be taking too much out of you. You should read the How to Warm Up sticky to get some ideas.

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TALO

Maybe I wrote it down wrong. I only did 2 warmup sets with 135lbs.for bench(Sometimes I used chains on top of that), shoulders was 2 with 95lbs. this was to heavy for a warm up I think
According to the warmup sticky I should do 3 warmup sets, 2 weight acclimation and then do 3 working sets. But my thinking was, since I am suppost to do 5 * 5 working sets that maybe the acclimation would be just to much.
I might be wrong, and maybe I'm not doing it proper. If I did it that way, that would be 10 sets. Wouldn't that be too much? If not then I will change it.

TALO's Sig:

"But when do you actually grow? Well, we don't grow in the gym. In the gym, we destroy. We tear down the body. We only grow when we are recovering. That's right, I said recovery. I see it all the time--people beating themselves up in the gym and not seeing results. They don't understand that hitting the weights hard is only a small part of growing or even cutting down. I could train the same all year round and get big or get ripped just by eating different and taking different supplements"

Eric3237

Well I don't think it's a question of what's proper, just what works best. With the weights your at you definitely don't need 10 sets. More like 5 would work. The acclimation sets really make a big difference. I understand what you're getting at but if you take into account that the starting weight should be lower...using the bench example like you did I would try something like this:

120x8
120x6
150x4
180x2
215x1

Now that would be me. I am minimalist and also I don't like to do more than 8 reps for a warmup. If you were benching in the 400 range it could be more. But the above example is a pretty good starting point and shouldn't take anything out of you. I guarantee it's better than what you did before but of couse you need to experiment to see what works best. This kind of warmup is actually more important when you're doing 5x5 same weight than ramping up like you were doing before since then those ramp up set were really a warmup in themselves. For that I actually do less warmup. But the warmup sticky was just meant as a sort of guideline I didn't mean to say I though you should follow everything verbatim. (Like me on the "only 8 reps thing).

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TALO

The last 4 days (and possibly tomorrow) were complete right off's. Due to work problems . I have decided to give this routine up and go back to the 5*5 program that I was doing before. Plus I haven't had half the gains with this as I did with the other.
My shoulder is feeling alot better,but just incase, I'm going to drop the incline press and focus on military.

TALO's Sig:

"But when do you actually grow? Well, we don't grow in the gym. In the gym, we destroy. We tear down the body. We only grow when we are recovering. That's right, I said recovery. I see it all the time--people beating themselves up in the gym and not seeing results. They don't understand that hitting the weights hard is only a small part of growing or even cutting down. I could train the same all year round and get big or get ripped just by eating different and taking different supplements"