widdoes2504

Doing good...keep it up!!

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Height: 6 foot
Weight: 240 pounds

Bench: 415 (1x1)
Deads: 565 (1x1)
A2G Squat: 425 (1x1)

Cardio sucks

_Wolf_

sorry to hear about the shitty spot...that must suck...

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mic_f

Hi. i'm training with Redcl, and was wondering waht do you think about doing on light days press 5X5 instead of 3X5. Redcl doesn't have a connection to the internet so he asked me to post this question.
Thanks for everyones' responses and especially to Eric for helping with our training.

EricT

I wouldn't do those ramped sets like that. Just do the minumum you have to do to get a good warmup and acclimation and do your one heavy set. So if what you have been doing is good stick with it or add a little but nothing drastic.

You can do whatever you want as long as it works. It seems like everyone but me is into everything always being one way to progress, though, and that is loading the bar.

When I was doing this kind of thing I simply gave pressing on light day more flexibility. Otherwise I would have changed it onto another day. If you get stuck on press you can try adding a rep to each set. It's a big increase but not a huge one. Then you can try adding weight and reducing reps again. If you increase the volume even by one set it's BIG increase and so it is very likely to effect you on PR day. If you went to 5x5, in order to keep progressing you'd probably have to reduce weight some. But you CAN do it. Bur remember you already have deads in there so this light day isn't really so light. Avoid adding too much.

If you add a lot of volume to press maybe try going to 3x3 on squats, still with the same light weight. Anything that you can do to decrease stress but still get the job done.

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I'm tired of the myth that bb'rs aren't flexible. As a group, they are extremely flexible. They have an amazing ability to bend over, place their heads between their legs, and blow smoke up their own asses.

redcl123

8/10/07 – Volume Day

Box squat:
Barx5x2
40x5
52x3
64x2
76x5x5 – not that hard. Hell I wish I could do 100 kg X 5 x 1!!! It'll definitely come soon ladies and gentleman!

Bench:
Barx5x2
30x5
42x3
55x2
67x5x5 – had 1-2 more in the last set, I think. Kept talking to myself in all of my sets ("you can do it", "you're not them", "you're not wingate" (stupid sport institute in Israel, full of BS), "you're not from the fren and chrome land", etc'.

Chest supported row:
Barx5x2
20x5
30x3
40x2
50x5x5 – felt good


Overall nice workout. Finally have my internet back, so everything is good. Mike, good luck in "jump" with all the wingates, and please make PR's for me. Eric and everyone else – thank's so much for the tips.

redcl123

10/10/07 - light day:

sumo dl:
60x5x2
73x3
87x2
100x5x1 - felt good. not that hard. next time 102.5.

press:
barx5x2
25x5
30x3
37x2
43x5x3 - again, felt pretty good. should have the bar closer to the heels of the palms, though.

front squat:
barx5x2
30x5
40x3
50x5x2

btw, I have a little problem. there's an instructor in my gym who knows a lot about a lot of things (and unlike me he does know anatomy, but I'm learning anatomy this year in med school anyway), and is probably one of the only people in Israel who knows who is mark rippetoe, who's glenn pendlay, that squats are good for you, etc'. BUT - and it's a big but, he only managed to deadlift 160 kgs for 1 rep. I don't know, maybe like a lot of people he doesn't know how to separate between all the good and the bad stuff on the internet. also he doesn't think that 5x5 is a good program (I thought there's a consensus it is good, assuming you change its variables to suit you).

he was nice to me, and suggested training with him and his training partners which is kewl, but I'm just not sure whether he really know what he's talking about, or is just a theoretician who will always find problems with your training.

how do you separate between the two?

redcl123

lol look at this:

http://www.basicbarbelltraining.com/...ew/300_301.pdf

this is from rippetoe's new "starting strenght". how the hell the squats progress so fast?

redcl123

12/10/07 – intensity day:

Regular squat:
Barx5x2
40x5
60x3
80x2
97x3.5x1 <- I felt really strong with it, but maybe I lost the groove. Came back to my old gym in Jerusalem, wasn't familiar with the spotter, and he didn't know how to help me. He touched at the 4'th rep, so I decided to rack. Anyway, I'm feeling stronger and I think I will get it next time.

Bench:
Barx5x2
30x5
48x3
63x2
75.5x4.5 <- almost! It's my 3'rd week with this weight, but now it felt better then ever. The spotter helped again too soon if you ask me, I don't think the bar stopped moving, but anyway Mondays still progress and each week it feels a little bit lighter, so I guess I'm doing fine.

Pull ups:
9,9,6 -> TL: 24. last total was 27 for 2 weeks, so I might change to chin-ups. What you think?

Have a nice weekend everyone!

EricT

It said that was a typical beginner. I must have been an extraordinarily weak, weak, weak individual when I started. I suspect it has a lot to do with proper instruction and being an actual beginner instead of a relative beginner to doing things right but who comes with a huge bag of problems and imbalances.

But I tell you what, I'll bet someone who "progresses" like that looks like shit under the bar. They start loading the bar really fast and technique goes to shit. They start out going deep on squats and get higher and higher, stuff like that. It becomes all about quantity over quality. I've never read SS and I have no intention of reading the new one but it's one of my problems with the programs in general that everything is about "getting the volume" in and there seems to be no discussion of quality. So it leads to this continual question of "I got my weight in but my form suck...do I keep it?" I think it's a pretty damn important question and is the big problem with cookie cutters. A lot of times I think people would be better off getting 15 quality reps in rather than 15 reps with half of them sucking balls.

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I'm tired of the myth that bb'rs aren't flexible. As a group, they are extremely flexible. They have an amazing ability to bend over, place their heads between their legs, and blow smoke up their own asses.