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Gazlay43 · 08-21-2007, 06:01 PM

Before u reply, I DID A SEARCH

but didn't find what i was looking 4
my question is, what will help me build muscle faster, BSN No Xplode or BSN Truemass? I'm new to taking supplements so idk what to look for.

triqqey · 08-21-2007, 07:25 PM

I've heard good results from the people who have used Truemass, good product for bulking up if you want to use whey protein powder supplements, but probably a bit more expensive than other products out there.

I've heard mixed results about NoXplode. Some say it's not worth it, some say it does its job well, but almost all agree that it gives a decent energy boost during your workout.

triqqey · 08-21-2007, 07:26 PM

I would go with the Truemass if those were your only two products and you could only use one

Gazlay43 · 08-21-2007, 08:21 PM

well what do u recommend?
like i said, im new 2 supps so idk what 2 use
i dont want a lot of water retention so i probably dont want a lot of creatine

triqqey · 08-21-2007, 09:13 PM

well, your two most important supplements IMHO to have are:
1. a protein powder (like Truemass if you're bulking up)
2. a multivitamin

others will argue this supplement and that supplement being needed, but those two included in a clean diet and good exercise program will cover the basics.

there are different kinds of protein powders, too. usually you can just read the ingredients and you'll see them:

1. whey protein (i.e. Truemass) is the fastest digesting and is best used for pre-workout and post-workout shakes.
2. casein protein is a little slower to digest, so is great to use before bedtime.

I'll let the other more experienced members suggest other supplements to use besides the two that I suggested because I only use 4 supplements, including those two.
the other two I use, and I don't know if anyone else on this forum has tried it, is a Niacin pill + a Chromium Picolinate pill with my pre-workout shake.

hope this helps!

IronKitten · 08-21-2007, 09:31 PM

My $0.02....

Screw NoX. If you want some pre-workout energy, have some coffee or a caffeine pill. That's the 'energy boost' that's in there anyway, caffeine. And the arginine in it is pretty well useless pre-workout.

All you really need to get going: protein powder (I suggest whey isolate but really any decent protein will do). Multivitamins. And fish oils.

If you're a newbie to lifting, ride that newbie effect while you can. You'll make killer gains for a while. Then when you're newbie gains start to wear off, worry more about possibly using some additional supplementation.

widdoes2504 · 08-22-2007, 01:51 AM

I agree with Triggey and IronKitten. I have wasted a lot of money and time searching for supplementation and have found that all you really need is good protein and multivitamins. Getting an energy boost prior to a workout can be helpful but is not required. On a side note....I miss my newbie gains

now I have to work my ass off (not that I mind) for small gains. Enjoy them while you can. Good luck.

hrdgain81 · 08-22-2007, 06:09 AM

just one more thing to add, everyone has given good advice but seems to have forgotten the carbs. Your pre and post workout shakes should have some type of fast absorbing carbs. you should find that dextrose/malto-dextrin is the cheapest and one of the most effective ways to go.

TALO · 08-22-2007, 08:41 AM

Hrdgain's right carbs are a must. Maltodextrine is prob the cheapest and most effective, add a scoop of whey and some creatine if you want.

Rangerluplow · 08-22-2007, 09:22 AM

well......i took noxplode for 4 weeks and got some good pumps but no mass.....true mass is just a gainer and for the money its pretty pricy....i would go with on's procomplex gainer if your going to spend that kind of money. just my 2 cents

08-21-2007, 06:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
Gazlay43 Rank: New Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: vegas Posts: 23 Country: Gender:	got a question Before u reply, I DID A SEARCH but didn't find what i was looking 4 my question is, what will help me build muscle faster, BSN No Xplode or BSN Truemass? I'm new to taking supplements so idk what to look for.

08-21-2007, 07:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
triqqey Rank: Member Experience: > 1 Year Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Podunk, USA Posts: 203 Country: Gender:	I've heard good results from the people who have used Truemass, good product for bulking up if you want to use whey protein powder supplements, but probably a bit more expensive than other products out there. I've heard mixed results about NoXplode. Some say it's not worth it, some say it does its job well, but almost all agree that it gives a decent energy boost during your workout.
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08-21-2007, 07:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
triqqey Rank: Member Experience: > 1 Year Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Podunk, USA Posts: 203 Country: Gender:	I would go with the Truemass if those were your only two products and you could only use one
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08-21-2007, 09:13 PM	#5 (permalink)
triqqey Rank: Member Experience: > 1 Year Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Podunk, USA Posts: 203 Country: Gender:	well, your two most important supplements IMHO to have are: 1. a protein powder (like Truemass if you're bulking up) 2. a multivitamin others will argue this supplement and that supplement being needed, but those two included in a clean diet and good exercise program will cover the basics. there are different kinds of protein powders, too. usually you can just read the ingredients and you'll see them: 1. whey protein (i.e. Truemass) is the fastest digesting and is best used for pre-workout and post-workout shakes. 2. casein protein is a little slower to digest, so is great to use before bedtime. I'll let the other more experienced members suggest other supplements to use besides the two that I suggested because I only use 4 supplements, including those two. the other two I use, and I don't know if anyone else on this forum has tried it, is a Niacin pill + a Chromium Picolinate pill with my pre-workout shake. hope this helps!
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08-22-2007, 01:51 AM	#7 (permalink)
widdoes2504 Rank: Lightweight Experience: 10+ Years Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 1,208 Country: Gender:	I agree with Triggey and IronKitten. I have wasted a lot of money and time searching for supplementation and have found that all you really need is good protein and multivitamins. Getting an energy boost prior to a workout can be helpful but is not required. On a side note....I miss my newbie gains now I have to work my ass off (not that I mind) for small gains. Enjoy them while you can. Good luck.
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08-21-2007, 08:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
Gazlay43 Rank: New Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: vegas Posts: 23 Country: Gender:	well what do u recommend? like i said, im new 2 supps so idk what 2 use i dont want a lot of water retention so i probably dont want a lot of creatine

08-21-2007, 09:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
IronKitten Rank: Bantamweight Experience: 10+ Years Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 659 Gender:	My $0.02.... Screw NoX. If you want some pre-workout energy, have some coffee or a caffeine pill. That's the 'energy boost' that's in there anyway, caffeine. And the arginine in it is pretty well useless pre-workout. All you really need to get going: protein powder (I suggest whey isolate but really any decent protein will do). Multivitamins. And fish oils. If you're a newbie to lifting, ride that newbie effect while you can. You'll make killer gains for a while. Then when you're newbie gains start to wear off, worry more about possibly using some additional supplementation.

08-22-2007, 06:09 AM	#8 (permalink)
hrdgain81 Rank: Light Heavyweight Experience: 5-7 Years Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,554	just one more thing to add, everyone has given good advice but seems to have forgotten the carbs. Your pre and post workout shakes should have some type of fast absorbing carbs. you should find that dextrose/malto-dextrin is the cheapest and one of the most effective ways to go.
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08-22-2007, 08:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
TALO Rank: Lightweight Experience: 5-7 Years Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Alberta , Canada Posts: 1,921 Country: Gender:	Hrdgain's right carbs are a must. Maltodextrine is prob the cheapest and most effective, add a scoop of whey and some creatine if you want.
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08-22-2007, 09:22 AM	#10 (permalink)
Rangerluplow Rank: Member Experience: 5-7 Years Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 126	well......i took noxplode for 4 weeks and got some good pumps but no mass.....true mass is just a gainer and for the money its pretty pricy....i would go with on's procomplex gainer if your going to spend that kind of money. just my 2 cents
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