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Old 12-02-2006, 07:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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i understand that ß-hydroxy-ß-methylbutyrate is a substance which is a substrate of leucine and that it helps to speed up the muscle growth but what im wondering is that how does that differentiate from creatine??? also im also contemplating to get hmb or creatine as part of my supplement intake as my main aim is to gain muscular strength asap
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Old 12-02-2006, 10:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'd go with either Creatine mono or CEE.

Creatine Mono:

Prolab(Creapure)
Primaforce Creaform


CEE:

Higher Power CEE
Omega Thunder
Primaforce CEE
Bulk CEE
Bulk Capped CEE

note: CEE tastes like you would hopefully only imagine battery acid tastes like. ;)

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I'd go with either Creatine mono or CEE.

Creatine Mono:

Prolab(Creapure)
Primaforce Creaform


CEE:

Higher Power CEE
Omega Thunder
Primaforce CEE
Bulk CEE
Bulk Capped CEE

note: CEE tastes like you would hopefully only imagine battery acid tastes like. ;)
I just bought some nutraplanet CEE and it has no taste at all. Same price as BN's too.

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I just bought some nutraplanet CEE and it has no taste at all. Same price as BN's too.


i know the owner...i'm going to ask him about this.


the CEE you got from BN...how did it taste?

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^^^^CEE with no taste definitely doesn't sound right. I have read a few people mentioning that the nutraplanet CEE tastes sour like all the rest. So....

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the CEE you got from BN...how did it taste?
Mine tastes like bag full of sweaty squirls ...

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I'd go with either Creatine mono or CEE.

Creatine Mono:

Prolab(Creapure)
Primaforce Creaform


CEE:

Higher Power CEE
Omega Thunder
Primaforce CEE
Bulk CEE
Bulk Capped CEE

note: CEE tastes like you would hopefully only imagine battery acid tastes like. ;)
can u explain to me wad does CEE do??
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can u explain to me wad does CEE do??
all of the same things creatine do.

CEE simply has an ethyl ester attached so no loading is needed and less of a dose is needed.

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so wad the diff btw cee n creatine monohydrate?
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Creatine Ethyl Ester HCL (hydrochloride):
In this case, creatine is bonded with an ester (ethyl alcohol). An ester is a compound formed from the reaction between an acid and an alcohol. Since creatine monohydrate is not very soluble in water, it has difficulty penetrating muscle cell membranes which are made up of lipids (fats). Also, once it comes in contact with any liquid, it gives up its' hydrogen atom which results in it being positively charged at one end and negatively charged at the other. As a result, creatine must rely on transporters to help it bridge this membrane. As it sits outside the cell membrane, it draws in more water (outside the cell), producing the bloating people associate with taking creatine monohydrate. It also begins to degrade and form creatinine. The addition of an ester means that the creatine does not have to rely on transporters to obtain access to muscle cells. Once inside the muscle cell, the ester is removed and the creatine begins to draw water into the cell.
· Pro:
· enhanced absorption rate
· lower dosage rate
· side effects associated with monohydrate are reduced
· Con:
· more expensive form of creatine

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