looking for cee thats made in germany - Bodybuilding Discussion on Bodybuilding.net Supplement Forum

shmadufa · 02-24-2007, 11:24 AM

i am going to buy some CEE powder this week and i am looking for one in bulk that is made in germany.

shmadufa · 02-24-2007, 03:41 PM

or at least one that isnt made in china

TALO · 02-24-2007, 03:55 PM

I'm sure if you google it, something would come up.

shmadufa · 02-26-2007, 02:17 PM

i cant find one, they say that thier creatine is german but it is only packaged in germany. they get the raw materials from china. any one know a high quality cee?

TALO · 02-26-2007, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by shmadufa

i cant find one, they say that thier creatine is german but it is only packaged in germany. they get the raw materials from china. any one know a high quality cee?

what's wrong with it coming from China, I'm sure they have just as good of a quality that the rest of the world would have...

Eric3237 · 02-26-2007, 02:41 PM

A lot of bad product came from China in the past. That's what he's speaking of I presume. I don't know what the deal with it is now. As far as I know there is still no oversight and the bad manufacturing, poor materials, etc, are still the case there. US creatine companies are not required to state where the product came from, unfortunately.

shmadufa · 02-26-2007, 04:31 PM

yeah thats what i am talking about. does anyone know a cee that has already been tested for its purity and the results shown or somehting like that?

Eric3237 · 02-27-2007, 09:43 AM

Here, read this:

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/article...impurities.htm

This is about creatine mono but I suspect the problems with CEE are the same.

Scorcher2005 · 03-02-2007, 09:40 AM

www.bulknitrition.com tests the creatine before selling. It tells how much is pure per teaspoon.

Eric3237 · 03-03-2007, 09:12 AM

Hate to burst anyones bubble but the purity test doesn't tell you much. Round it up to 99% pure and there is still a potential for 1% of a certain amount to be toxic material. Add that all up over days building up in your system and that may be a bad thing. The "heavy metals" just says "passed". Bulknutrtion CEE comes from China. That is why it is so cheap. So unless you want to demand an independant HPLC test from them you are taking your chances.

The "test results" come from the manufacturer. They are not carried out by bulknutrition or by an independant lab. If you want good info you have to ask for an independant assay...i.e. not by the seller or the manufacturer. Lots of companies will provide these upon request.

02-24-2007, 11:24 AM	#1 (permalink)
shmadufa Rank: Member Experience: 3-5 Years Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 79 Gender:	looking for cee thats made in germany i am going to buy some CEE powder this week and i am looking for one in bulk that is made in germany.

02-24-2007, 03:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
TALO Rank: Lightweight Experience: 10+ Years Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,777 Country: Gender:	I'm sure if you google it, something would come up.
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02-26-2007, 02:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
Eric3237 Moderator Rank: Heavyweight Experience: 7-10 Years Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,216 Country: Gender:	A lot of bad product came from China in the past. That's what he's speaking of I presume. I don't know what the deal with it is now. As far as I know there is still no oversight and the bad manufacturing, poor materials, etc, are still the case there. US creatine companies are not required to state where the product came from, unfortunately.
	Eric3237's Sig:To go from the general to the specific is a very good idea. But to go from the specific to the general; that's just confusing.

02-27-2007, 09:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
Eric3237 Moderator Rank: Heavyweight Experience: 7-10 Years Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,216 Country: Gender:	Here, read this: http://www.mesomorphosis.com/article...impurities.htm This is about creatine mono but I suspect the problems with CEE are the same.
	Eric3237's Sig:To go from the general to the specific is a very good idea. But to go from the specific to the general; that's just confusing.

03-03-2007, 09:12 AM	#10 (permalink)
Eric3237 Moderator Rank: Heavyweight Experience: 7-10 Years Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,216 Country: Gender:	Hate to burst anyones bubble but the purity test doesn't tell you much. Round it up to 99% pure and there is still a potential for 1% of a certain amount to be toxic material. Add that all up over days building up in your system and that may be a bad thing. The "heavy metals" just says "passed". Bulknutrtion CEE comes from China. That is why it is so cheap. So unless you want to demand an independant HPLC test from them you are taking your chances. The "test results" come from the manufacturer. They are not carried out by bulknutrition or by an independant lab. If you want good info you have to ask for an independant assay...i.e. not by the seller or the manufacturer. Lots of companies will provide these upon request.
	Eric3237's Sig:To go from the general to the specific is a very good idea. But to go from the specific to the general; that's just confusing.

02-24-2007, 03:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
shmadufa Rank: Member Experience: 3-5 Years Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 79 Gender:	or at least one that isnt made in china

02-26-2007, 02:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
shmadufa Rank: Member Experience: 3-5 Years Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 79 Gender:	i cant find one, they say that thier creatine is german but it is only packaged in germany. they get the raw materials from china. any one know a high quality cee?

02-26-2007, 04:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
shmadufa Rank: Member Experience: 3-5 Years Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 79 Gender:	yeah thats what i am talking about. does anyone know a cee that has already been tested for its purity and the results shown or somehting like that?

03-02-2007, 09:40 AM	#9 (permalink)
Scorcher2005 Rank: Member Experience: 2-3 Years Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Beaufort, SC Posts: 490 Country: Gender:	www.bulknitrition.com tests the creatine before selling. It tells how much is pure per teaspoon.

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