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Kane 07-25-2006 01:22 PM

BCAA's
 
Quick question guys (since I can't seem to find the answer). I'm using Pro-Lab Advanced whey and I noticed it has BCAA's mixed in, so I'm not taking them seperately anymore. I'm taking in about 4-5 shakes per day (2 scoops) (including pre and post), so here's my question. Are there any side-effects (good, bad, or otherwise) to taking a large amount of BCAA's? and Is there a limit to how many you can/should ingest in a day (in grams)?

Here's the link for the prolab product info http://www.prolab.com/ecommerce/cont...oduct_id=10127

EricT 07-25-2006 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane
I'm using Pro-Lab Advanced whey and I noticed it has BCAA's mixed in,

??? I don't see anywhere where it has extra BCAA's mixed in. Whey is naturally very high in BCAA's so that's pretty much a standard claim in any decent whey product. You're not gonna overdose of BCAA's just from the 4 or 5 scoops of whey a day and you could take in a whole lot more than that as long as it's in the proper 2:1:1 ratio.

EricT 07-25-2006 03:54 PM

Damn, Kane. I'm sorry I realize I didn't answer your question in terms of "good" side effects. There is a BCAA/Cit. Malate overview posted in the nutrition articles section that should help. If you can't find it I'll link it.

Edit * http://www.bodybuilding.net/nutritio...bcaas-931.html

Kane 07-25-2006 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric3237
??? I don't see anywhere where it has extra BCAA's mixed in. Whey is naturally very high in BCAA's so that's pretty much a standard claim in any decent whey product. You're not gonna overdose of BCAA's just from the 4 or 5 scoops of whey a day and you could take in a whole lot more than that as long as it's in the proper 2:1:1 ratio.

I compared it to a couple other products I've used and it seemed to be higher in BCAA's...I can't get the actually breakdown of the BCAA's from the internet, but I will post the numbers that are printed on the bottle. I'm typically taking in 8-10 scoops (as opposed to 4 or 5). What is the ratio you mentioned? Is it the ratio of L-Leucine, L-Isoleucine and L-Valine? (looks like I have alot of reading to do for BCAA's :weights: )

EricT 07-25-2006 04:00 PM

Oh it definitely could be higher (or lower) than some products depending on the mixture and relative proportions of concentrate, isolate, peptides, things like that. Sorry I misread 4 to 5 shakes to mean 4 to 5 scoops.

Yes that is the ratio I'm speaking of. And I posted again as your were replying I think. Linked you to an article.

Kane 07-25-2006 04:06 PM

Thanks for your reply Eric. It helped me out quite a bit. You learn something new everyday around this place.


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Originally Posted by Eric3237
And I posted again as your were replying I think. Linked you to an article.

I saw the post and will be reading the article about 10 times. Thanks again for the quick response!

EricT 07-25-2006 04:13 PM

You're welcome of course. I can't find any mention of side-effects of BCAA's at any dose (no reported side effects). Most likely any extra will just be oxidized, used to make other aminos, stored as fat...

I have read of something to do with trytophan pathways is the brain(??)
I'm not sure if that had to do with supplementing leucine alone, for which there are theoretical dangers, or what. I DON't think it's a realistic concern but if I find it again I'll post.

Kane 07-25-2006 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric3237
You're welcome of course. I can't find any mention of side-effects of BCAA's at any dose (no reported side effects). Most likely any extra will just be oxidized, used to make other aminos, stored as fat....

I also couldn't find any mention of side effects or dangers in the article...I will keep my research ongoing of course and learn as much as possible.

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Originally Posted by Eric3237
I have read of something to do with trytophan pathways is the brain(??)
I'm not sure if that had to do with supplementing leucine alone, for which there are theoretical dangers, or what. I DON't think it's a realistic concern but if I find it again I'll post.

There is a blurb in the article mentioning that BCAA's and tryptophan compete for the same pathways. But from what I've read so far, I don't see any major concerns. The info would be appreciated if you can find it :)

EricT 07-25-2006 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane
There is a blurb in the article mentioning that BCAA's and tryptophan compete for the same pathways

That's probably where I read it before. No, definitely doesn't sound like something to worry about.

hrdgain81 07-25-2006 04:51 PM

There is no danger in superdosing BCAA's. I've gone as high as 50g a day, and I saw no adverse effects Kane.

Nothing to worry about bro


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