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ChinPieceDave667 05-30-2006 08:21 PM

ChinPiece's Pure Virtago Tester Log
 
To start off I will give a little info about myself, training, diet and other supplements I will be taking with Pure Virtago.

I'm roughly 5'11.5" and I weigh in at 217lbs. with about 15% body fat.
I will be doing HST for Cutting which can be found in my sig. or here. I will also be training in Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) on most of the off day along with other cardio in hopes to gain more endurance to compete soon. My Diet will start out at about 3100 cals. and be lowered as soon as I don't lose at least 1-1.5lbs. a week. It can also be found in my workout journal.

Supplements that I will be taking are ON Whey, Dextrose, Purple Wraath, and MHP's Probolic SR which has calcium caseinate. Then soon I'm going to go to True Protein and get some night time pro.

When I take Pure Virtago it will be with ON's Whey and a little bit of Dextrose, and it will be after lifting and MMA. It will NOT be taken after Cardio since I only have a little bit.

ChinPieceDave667 05-30-2006 08:56 PM

Ok the first workout day I didn't take the Pure Virtago because I left it at home and on Mondays I workout in the Morning.

But, today I took it during MMA. Here's the break down.

On Tuesdays I do Muay Thai for about 1 hour then after that I have 2 hours of grappling, 1 hr of No-Gi and 1 hour of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
After Muay Thai I sip on a full serving of Pure Virtago throughout the 2 hours along with 2 scoops of ON Whey and 2 tbsp of Dex, this might change since this is my first time taking it and I might want to see if more or less would benefit me. I don't like to chug it down because having that much in my stomach will just come up as soon as I get slammed.

Normally I drink a weight gainer called IDS's Smart Gain. I would normally do the same thing with the weight gainer as with the Pure Virtago and drink it throughout the grappling classes.

My First impressions of my new mix.
I mixed the Pure Virtago by itself in one shaker and the Whey and Dex in another shaker.

Taste:I love the taste. It wasn't clumpy and I would take a sip and put more water in it because it was a little thick in the beginning.

After the first grappling class I realized that I had a little more energy than last week. So I was def. pumped about this, which is why I'm wondering if more would be better, but that will be for next week.

Side Effects: The one side effect that I realized I had that I didn't have from my norm is I was Gassy as Hell. I mean I farted every time I got thrown or swepped. Then when I got home I sat on the can and farted for about a minute and it was all gas. We will have to see if this is an ongoing issue.

Overall I like it so far. Let's see what happened on a lifting day.

EricT 05-31-2006 10:40 AM

I would recommend leaving out the Dex and see how that goes.

ChinPieceDave667 05-31-2006 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric3237
I would recommend leaving out the Dex and see how that goes.

That's what I was thinking when I up the PV dosage.

hrdgain81 05-31-2006 11:48 AM

I could be completely wrong, but wouldnt you want low GI carbs before prolonged endurance type training? so you will have sustaned energy levels throughout?

seems to me you would bottom out at some point using pv like that ... just my observation.

EricT 05-31-2006 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hardgain
I could be completely wrong, but wouldnt you want low GI carbs before prolonged endurance type training? so you will have sustaned energy levels throughout?

Well if you think about it this type of training is fairly anaerobic in nature. You get bursts of high intensity activity. If Dave is going for an hour and then beginning to sip on his shakes then that should work just as well for this type of training if not better. I would think it depends on the individual as well.

ChinPieceDave667 05-31-2006 12:17 PM

you are both right.
Hrdgain, you are right but that situation is if you are going to drink it all at once.

Eric is thinking right on the money. Once I start sipping I go through rounds where the instructor will teach and then we apply at a pace that keeps increasing. Then break for more instructions. At the end of every class we spar in 5 min rounds with 30-60 seconds break in-between and that's where the sipping really comes into play.

hrdgain81 05-31-2006 12:26 PM

gotcha, makes sense now.

ChinPieceDave667 06-01-2006 07:54 PM

Ok, I got a chance to take it after working out and all was going good till I realized that I had some BIG chunks at the bottom of my shaker. So I filled it up completely with water again, 24 oz., and figured it needed time to sit out so I shook it for 30 secs. and waited about 3 minutes. Shook it up some more and downed it. Still lumps I just go tired and grabbed a fork and ate what was left. Not bad, tasted like a Gummy Jolly Rancher. I think it has to stay out some to dissolve. I didn't have a problem with it in MMA because I made it 1 hour before I got a chance to drink it. So far I feel good and I don't feel that sore from lifting so I think it's working.

ChinPieceDave667 06-01-2006 08:04 PM

MMA training day
 
Today was a HELL of a training day. We had to do hard core rounds as part of our new training for competition.

This consisted of one guy who is "it" and he has to grapple a new guy every 30 seconds with no break. We had about 8 guys in class so that was 7 rounds with a fresh guy every 30 seconds. I took some Pure Virtago before I was up and I was doing good for my first time trying this. After I was "it" I thought I was going to puke and was dead tired. So I drank about 12 oz of water and downed some P.V. By the time it was close to the end of class one of the other guys couldn't finish his last 2 rounds and so I volunteered. I was very refreshed and didn't feel that bad at all. I continued to sip the P.V. for the rest of the classes and by the time sparing came up for No-Gi, which is about 75 minutes later, I was right a rain.

BUT.

I keep having to add water to the P.V. because it was still a little chunky. When I make the P.V. there is nothing else in the shaker except water and I put in 24 oz. of water. Does anybody else have this problem or should I shake it longer, what??

Darkhorse 06-01-2006 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChinPieceDave
When I make the P.V. there is nothing else in the shaker except water and I put in 24 oz. of water. Does anybody else have this problem or should I shake it longer, what??

Is it cold water like from a drinking fountain? I've found that warm water doesn't cause the chunks to occur.

ChinPieceDave667 06-02-2006 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 0311
Is it cold water like from a drinking fountain? I've found that warm water doesn't cause the chunks to occur.

the water is a little cold. I'll try using warmer water and see how that works.



I forgot to mention:

I upped the dosage to 2.5 scoops and took out the dex.

Last night I didn't have gas like I did the first night. :biglaugh:

verbatimreturned 06-02-2006 11:58 AM

I mix mine with pretty cold water all of the time Dave and I've never had a problem so far. Do you have the screen in your shaker when you mix it to break up the clumps? I think that really does the trick, But I also down my shake immediatly after I mix it with the water then when I finish I put in a little more water, shake it around to get the little clumps off the side and drink that.

ChinPieceDave667 06-02-2006 12:04 PM

I've used the one that has the screen that looks like a fan. I think I have one that is a full grid. I'll try both and see what happens.

verbatimreturned 06-02-2006 12:28 PM

Yeah I have a fan looking one, works perfect for me

ChinPieceDave667 06-03-2006 10:38 AM

Well I took some advice and it worked very well. I used room temp water and let it sit for 5 mins after shaking, then shook it up some more and downed it. no real clumps just a little stuck on the bottom. I added more water and it dissolved fine. The workout I had on Friday was Hell and 30 mins after I downed the Pure Virtago and some whey I felt so much better.

ChinPieceDave667 06-05-2006 06:15 AM

judo practice
 
I went to Judo practice after a night of partying a little bit and I was feeling a little hung over so I figured what a good way to see if P.V. can help out.

Judo is at 11:30 am.

I get up at 10:00, drink water and take some aspirin. By 11:00 I'm feeling ok and my head ache is gone so I wanted a little boost so I took 1 scoop of P.V. and 40 grams of whey. I went to class and I was feeling pretty good. Not good enough to take on the teacher, which later on I had to and he threw me all over the place, but good enough to where my head ache didn't come back and I could keep up with class. After that pounded 2 scoops of P.V. and some more whey and went home. I'd have to say so far I am very impressed with this product. More to come on Tuesday.

ChinPieceDave667 06-15-2006 07:46 AM

Ok just to give you guys an update, the P.V. is going well and for my Grappling competition on Saturday I will be drinking close to 5 scoops throughout the day to see if it can keep me fresh when I compete. I'll be competing all day or until I get beat so we'll see how far I can go and really put Pure Virtago to the test of keeping me ahead of the game.

EricT 06-15-2006 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave
I get up at 10:00, drink water and take some aspirin

Ever tried doing that BEFORE you go to sleep...if you have the presence of mind. 3 or 4 glasses of water and some aspirin will make all the difference in the morning. Even if it means you have to piss during the night :) .

Just some practical advice from an old man who's been there..and good luck again on the comp.

ChinPieceDave667 06-15-2006 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric3237
Ever tried doing that BEFORE you go to sleep...if you have the presence of mind. 3 or 4 glasses of water and some aspirin will make all the difference in the morning. Even if it means you have to piss during the night :) .

Just some practical advice from an old man who's been there..

I do that sometimes but I really didn't think I was going to be hung over at all. I did have 3 glasses of water and some Gatorade before hitting the hey.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric3237
good luck again on the comp.

thanks.

ChinPieceDave667 06-21-2006 07:34 AM

Well the P.V. came in very handy after my matches and between that and my cardio training I was able to stay above the competition and be fresher than the others before the matches.

I would take about a scoop and a half after every match and by the second match I was feeling very good, the last match was very taxing but I was able to stay in there and pull out and get first place.

After all my matches were over, my arms were burning like no other. It felt like I did 5 sets of 21's and 100 dips.

After I was able to hold up the shaker to my face I downed more P.V. and in about 20-30 mins my arms started to feel a lot better.

The one thing I did notice is the next morning I was achy but my arms didn't hurt at all, I was just very exhausted. I will most definitely take this on ever competition to help stay fresh and help heal for the next day. I can only imagine what this would be like if I was taking this with CEE.

ChinPieceDave667 06-28-2006 10:00 AM

Sad day
 
Today is a sad day for I have run out of Pure Virtago. :sos:

What I will do is right up a comparison from having P.V. to going without it when I workout next and go to MMA practice. I'm buying more but the log is coming to an end soon.

verbatimreturned 06-28-2006 10:59 AM

I'm almost just about done with mine to dave, and I feel your sadness. Good stuff shame to say I'm just about done

ChinPieceDave667 07-06-2006 07:25 AM

Final Thoughts
 
Well I've been off P.V. for about a week and I've got to tell ya, I miss it. I love the taste of the fruit punch and I always feel recharged after taking it, especially after my MMA practice.

One thing I've realized after not taking it for a week are little changes. I am a little more sore the next day after lifting and I gas out a little quicker in MMA practice after I'm done sparring with someone. I really can't wait to try this with come CEE. I'm definitely going to buy more and it will be a regular in my diet.


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