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Old 09-22-2005, 12:21 AM   #1
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ok.....i heard today (from a GNC employee) that the animal stak2 blocks creatine from getting into your system, is this true or is this guy trying to blow smoke up my A$$.
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Old 09-22-2005, 12:43 AM   #2
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That guy's so full of shit his eyes are brown. Ok, lets break this down:

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Amount Per Pack.
Vitamin C (as ascorbic acid)...........100mg 166%
Vitamin B6 (as pyridoxine HCl).........10.5mg 525%
Magnesium (as oxide)......450mg 113%
Zinc (as oxide)...........30mg 200%
Chromimum (as picolinate)..........100mcg 83%
Natural Test Complex
Longjack Extract Complex.......250mg
Avena Sativa Extract (standardized for avenacosides A&B).....250mg
Tribulus Extract Complex (standardized for protodiscin & steroidal sapnins)............500mg
Growth Hormone Secretagogues
Mucuna Pruriens Extract (standardized for 15% L-Dopa)......250mg
Alpha Glycerylphosphorylcholine.........50mg
Vasodilator Complex (Arginine Alpha Ketoglutarate and Arginine Ketoisocaproate).....................750mg
Aromatase Inhibitors
Calcium D-Glucarate.........100mg
Diindoylmethane (DIM).........100mg
DHT Blockers
Beta-Sitosterol.........250mg
Saw Palmetto Extract.......200mg
Pygeum africanum..........50mg
Cortisol Inhibitor Complex........300mg
Acetyl-L-Carnitine
Phosphatidylserine
Liver Detoxifiers
Lysophosphatidylcholine..........50mg
Milk Thisle Extract..............200mg


Animal Stak 2, Natural "Test" Pack
If you're a serious lifter looking to maximize your strength, performance, and gains then it's time to consider the new Animal Stak 2. Like all other Animal products, Animal stak 2 is a comprehenisve supplement delivered in individual "pakcs". Each pack contains effective doses of patented and proven ingredients designed to help you naturally enhance your own body's ability to produce anabolic hormone levels. Animal Stak 2 also includes DHT blockers and aromatase inhibitors to help your body prevent the conversion of testosterone to either estrogen or DHT. Finally, you'll find select vasodilators to help enhance systemic circulation and deliver these ingredients where your body needs them most.
There's nothing in this list of ingredients that will inhibit the effects of creatine.
Actually, this ingredient actually improves delivery:
Vasodilator Complex (Arginine Alpha Ketoglutarate and Arginine Ketoisocaproate).....................750mg

Any smuck can go and work at gnc just the same as any shmuck paying $250 to be a certified personal trainer. So, when going to GNC (I assume your options are limited due to your name) you must keep in mind that they don't hold a chemistry degree, and couldn't obtain any real job.

Matter of fact, I was on this other website fighting with a "personal trainer" because he thought cee was just a fancy name for dicreatine malate!!

Consequently, I won. ;)

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BTW, don't buy any products like this because in looking at the ingredients, most of them are severely underdosed. My example of the product's "vasodialator complex" isn't effective at 750 mg...It should be at the very least 3 grams.
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Old 09-22-2005, 01:09 AM   #4
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wow thats good to know thanks for the advice!!! what product do you recommend that would be better. (if there is one)
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For a natural test booster I really like Fenotest. I put out a review about it in the supplement tester thread. Other than that, you can buy your own zinc dirt cheap and take before bed. Tribulus products:

http://www.bulknutrition.com/?cPath=55

Vitrix IMO is one of the best, but it's too expensive.
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