How To Pick The Right Protein
I know Sleezy will love this. :fest30: I'm using Trueprotein.com as an example as well as the standard. I'm opening this thread to discuss different ideas of what would be some good custom proteins. Anyone feel free to chyme in. I think it would be a good idea to open this thread about all the different kinds of protein out there and what would be a good choice depending on what someone would want it for.
I've been trying to come up with some good custom blends to suit my needs. Here are the categories that I feel are most important: (in order) 1. Pre/Postworkout Formula 2. Nighttime Formula 3. MRP or Daytime formula Of course I'm going to say that 90% of anyone's protein needs should come from whole foods albiet eggs, meat, poultry. But, a lot of members here aren't 180 lbs. either! I'm 260 currently, and I don't think it's particularly easy to eat strictly whole foods to meet my needs. My daily goal is to hit 400 grams per day. That means if I eat 50 grams of protein per meal, I'll need 8 meals to consume. Hypothetically, if I'm only awake for around 14 hours, that means I need to eat every 1 hour, 45 minutes. I just don't have that kind of money to spend on groceries. :17: This company seems like the best one I've seen for protein needs. I personally don't like big name company proteins because they're too expensive for what you get. On 100% whey has been the best out of all of them for me, but...If you compare the ingredients in a 5 lb container to TP's whey isolate (cold filtration), the difference you spend on TP's won't be a lot. ON 100% whey (5 lb)= $28 TP isolate (5 lb)= $34 The difference is with TP's you got 100% isolate whereas with ON's, you're getting a lot of concentrate along with isolate. Follow my thinking? Feel free to input anything. Studies, descriptions, ect.. Everyone I'm sure knows about that. |
All descriptions were made by either trueprotein.com or proteinfactory.com
1. Pre/Postworkout Formula - The first thing to think about is how many days you're working out. Pretty simple. For me, I workout three days a week. So, that's only 12 days every month. Next is how much you're willing to spend. I prefer to order every month. This way I don't pay a ton of money all at once. - Next step is what form of whey to use...Of course whey is the protein of choice. Here are the different kinds of isolate: Quote:
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2. Nighttime Formula
- Obviously something with casein, egg, or both. Here are the different descriptions: Quote:
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Aminogen is another option to exercise that would be a very good addition to the customized protein. Here's a good description from proteinfactory.com:
Aminogen FAQ's Aminogen is a patented enzyme system that liberates free form amino acids from any protein-containing food. Now some might ask…What is an enzyme? An enzyme is a bioactive polypeptide coded to break down a specific substrate. In this case, it breaks protein down to free-form amino acids. Since your body cannot naturally digest all the protein, Aminogen has the ability to release more amino acids from the protein than the action of the digestive enzymes alone. What is the big deal? Amino Acids are necessary building blocks of all proteins- commonly referred to as muscle food. The following are types of Amino Acids released by Aminogen: Glutamine: which is known to have an affect on body composition, regulation of body weight AND the immune system. Glutamine Peptides also help in injury recovery Branched Chain Amino Acids: Isoleucine, Leucine and Valine- known to promote protein synthesis, serve as muscle fuel, combat fatigue and strengthen the immune system. BCAA’s are found in every source of protein. Arginine: known to have a positive effect on weight loss and body fat loss, as well as, serve as a precursor for creatine which may increase the size and strength of muscle. Lysine: known to release growth hormones How does Aminogen Work? A. Aminogen works its best when you are on a high protein diet. According to the RDA a high protein diet is anything over 56 g of protein per day based on a 150 pound person. Again, Aminogen, as defined above, works with your body and on the protein in your digestive system to make more free amino acids available for use by the body. Why do I need these proteins broken down into amino acids? Many athletes ingest higher amounts of protein in attempt to supply additional amino acids for the building and repair of muscle tissue. Others rely on ingesting large amounts of amino acids supplements. Where do these free amino acids go after they are released? The free amino acids released by Aminogen circulate to perform vital functions in the body, such as building muscles, resulting in body compositional change. What is the advantage of taking Aminogen over other digestive enzyme-based supplements? By taking Aminogen with your high protein diet you are enabling your body to absorb more free amino acids from the protein you ingest to build muscle, increase lean body mass, decrease body fat and support vital body functions. 8 Ultimately, you are eliminating the need to ingest other free form amino acid supplements that are not natural, work slower and cost more money. Who will benefit from taking Aminogen? Anyone who is on a high protein diet and interested in getting the highest amount of amino acids from the protein they eat in order to build the body. You do not have t be a body builder to benefit from Aminogen. If your protein needs are great, or if you are required to control your protein intake, Aminogen will maximize the benefits of the protein you eat. What is the scientific support for Aminogen? Controlled laboratory studies consisting of a simulated human gastrointestinal model have demonstrated that 42% more free form amino acids were released with Aminogen at a dose of 250 mg per 100 g of protein. Animal studies have shown that by taking Aminogen (50 mg/1 g of protein), you will achieve 20% more free form amino acids in the bloodstream while taking Aminogen than by your natural digestive secretions alone. Is Aminogen all natural? Yes. What product forms are available in Aminogen? Powder. When do I take Aminogen? You should take Aminogen immediately before or after you ingest protein. Are there any side effects of Aminogen? The only side effect is less gas. |
I'm using a Hydrolyzed Whey (Maximus Natural Sport Whey Protein $15/5lb at the local supermarket :D). I usually get about 300-320 grams of protein a day. I only take shakes for pre/post workout since I can eat most of my protein from food. I'm taking one pre-workout shake, one during the workout (half a shake halfway through the workout and the other half at the end), and one post, and only on lifting days.
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A good thread over at intensemuscle detailing recommended custom protein mixes can be found by clicking here.
It's a very good guide made by Massive G. His mixes are IMO the best, but are very pricey. For instance: Quote:
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Nighttime Formula:
I was just comparing TP to protein factory and it seems that protein factory has better pricing for this customized formula. I used the same amounts for both: 40% Milk Isolate 40% Egg White 10% Micellar Casein 10% Isolate TrueProtein: 15 servings per pound at about 25 grams of protein. I'd need 2 servings every night. So 4 lbs priced at $29.80. Proteinfactory: 9 servings per pound at 43 grams of protein. I'd need only 1 serving every night. So 3 lbs priced at $23.25. I think this is substantial when you also include shipping and handling as well. I'm not sure about any other companies besides these two. Other than that, everything else seems to be about the same in regards to pricing. For example, if you look at whey isolate ion exchange, you'll see that TP is $8.88 and PF is $9.09 per pound. Twenty cents isn't going to break the bank in this case, but, TP's the best choice here if you choose to buy in bulk. If you got the money to spend, the pricing keeps dropping every 10 lbs. When everything's said and done, it boils down to reputation. I know Sleazy can talk about TP, and I'm pretty sure SDF has ordered from PF in the past because I remember him raving about their p12 creatine. Either way, buying straight from companies like these are far and beyond better than buying mixes from companies that use fillers at a higher price. :cop: |
Complements of Slayer, the following is a link to a test done by Bulk Nutrition of Protein Factory label claims...Keep in mind that this test was done 4 years ago, and I'm sure PF must've heard about it and fixed the problem:
http://www.labelclaimstesting.com/?pageID=5&mp=10& |
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The idea of most isolates is that they're mostly all protein, but they can contain various amounts of sub-fractions depending on whether they're ion-exchanged (as high as 70% of Beta-lactoglobulin, most allergenic and least beneficial) or micro-filtereds, which can supposedly be made unique according to the manufacturer and the filtering technolodgy used (at least 9 or 10 different techniques). |
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Here is Lyle McDonald's Protein Articles which I posted before in DR X's Protein thread. Something on whey and casein and where this fast vs. slow stuff came from: Quote:
As for the last paragraph, you definitely should be doing something PRE and POST workout. |
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