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kamikaze · 02-24-2007, 06:28 AM

Hey have any of you guys ever heard of this or tried it? I just ordered some and it is pretty cheap. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

TALO · 02-24-2007, 09:15 AM

I found this in Flex Mag Dec-05 ( I was just re-reading it the other day).

Kre-Alkalyn is a "buffered creatine", meaning that it is processed at a higher pH level than regular creatine. The highter th pH level, the less acidic the conditions. Beffering prevents creatine from breaking down to the byproduct creatine. Creatine converts to creatinine at a higher rate when it's exposed to acidic conditions.

It is believed that this process can be halted by pH level manipulation during the manufacturing process.Slowing or stopping the conversion of creatine to creatinine may help the body absorb more creatine,thus lowering the dosage requirements.

Although no clinical trials (as of Dec'05) have been conducted on Kre-Alkalyn, anecdotal reports suggest that it has similar benefits to regular creatines yet at a lower dose and without stomach discomfort or bloating. Take 1 1/2 - 3 g of Kre-Alkalyn before and after workouts. As with CEE, a loading phase is not necessary.

Kevsworld · 02-03-2010, 07:19 AM

I'm not impressed at all:

http://www.strongandfit.net/2010/02/...hyl-ester.html

Pitysister · 02-03-2010, 02:47 PM

interestings....nice find kev.

Hoopiee · 02-05-2010, 12:59 AM

Ummm reading the 2 studies in the link, they only talk about CEE. I see no reference to KA which is totaly different from CEE. So how can you say that you dont recommend KA buy those studies. KA is CM at a PH of 12. Here is a link to studies on KA

http://www.kre-alkalyn.net/

P4noz · 02-05-2010, 05:38 AM

I wouldn't trust the ka.net site. Seems strongly biased and the publications do not are not peered reviewed or anything. If they are, a link to the journal would be to there advantage. The studies in strong and fit on CEE are from peer-reviewed journals and shows some statistical values are in there. But, you right there is no information ka.

Kevsworld · 02-05-2010, 06:14 AM

How is it "totally different" from CEE? Maybe it is but I sincerely doubt it. The Kre websites make the same claims--that creatine quickly degrades, blah, blah, blah.

P4noz · 02-05-2010, 07:38 AM

In my mind CEE and KA are about the same. Creatine with a change in them. One through a pH buffer and the other through molecular binding, same stuff different pitch.

Kevsworld · 02-05-2010, 06:43 PM

I've updated my post--now it has specific info on kre-alkalyn.

http://www.strongandfit.net/2010/02/...hyl-ester.html

Hoopiee · 02-08-2010, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevsworld

I've updated my post--now it has specific info on kre-alkalyn.

http://www.strongandfit.net/2010/02/...hyl-ester.html

An FYI. AAEFX sued Tallon about his study and won. Tallon didnt provide his lawyers with proof that he ever did a study on KA. He has to pay AAEFX 1 million in damages. I do know this for a fact as i have a copy of the papers...So i wouldnt put any weight on that study by Tallon

02-24-2007, 06:28 AM	#1
kamikaze Rank: New Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 15	kre alkalyn Hey have any of you guys ever heard of this or tried it? I just ordered some and it is pretty cheap. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

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P4noz Rank: New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 29	I wouldn't trust the ka.net site. Seems strongly biased and the publications do not are not peered reviewed or anything. If they are, a link to the journal would be to there advantage. The studies in strong and fit on CEE are from peer-reviewed journals and shows some statistical values are in there. But, you right there is no information ka.
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02-05-2010, 06:14 AM	#7
Kevsworld Rank: Member Experience: 10+ Years Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 106 Country: Gender:	How is it "totally different" from CEE? Maybe it is but I sincerely doubt it. The Kre websites make the same claims--that creatine quickly degrades, blah, blah, blah.
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P4noz Rank: New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 29	In my mind CEE and KA are about the same. Creatine with a change in them. One through a pH buffer and the other through molecular binding, same stuff different pitch.
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02-03-2010, 07:19 AM	#3
Kevsworld Rank: Member Experience: 10+ Years Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 106 Country: Gender:	I'm not impressed at all: http://www.strongandfit.net/2010/02/...hyl-ester.html

02-03-2010, 02:47 PM	#4
Pitysister Rank: Light Heavyweight Experience: > 1 Year Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,036 Country: Gender:	interestings....nice find kev.

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Hoopiee Rank: New Member Experience: 10+ Years Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: West Virginia Posts: 2 Gender:	Ummm reading the 2 studies in the link, they only talk about CEE. I see no reference to KA which is totaly different from CEE. So how can you say that you dont recommend KA buy those studies. KA is CM at a PH of 12. Here is a link to studies on KA http://www.kre-alkalyn.net/

02-05-2010, 06:43 PM	#9
Kevsworld Rank: Member Experience: 10+ Years Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 106 Country: Gender:	I've updated my post--now it has specific info on kre-alkalyn. http://www.strongandfit.net/2010/02/...hyl-ester.html

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