Blah blah blah. You still haven't proven that creatine malate or whatever is more effective than taking creatine monohydrate. Even if a portion of the CM turns into creatinine, enough is still absorbed. You're just proving my point further. The vast majority of people don't have GI distress, or bloating. The loading period isn't required. And this part, "having to stop taking mono for periods of time", doesn't make sense. It's a very biased article. It reminds me of a...sales pitch.
You have a fetish for creatine chelate & creatine malate. It is not more effective than taking 5g of CM and you can't find any evidence that is contrary to this. If the creatine makes it into the muscle, then it's there. Creatine monohydrate gets into the muscle. Period. Quit arguing about it. |
Quote:
I would like YOU to prove to me why mono is superior or equal to any of the formulas I have given you research studies on: How much mono is actually absorbed into the muscle, Why there is bloating--of any kind, why there is a loading period required, why mass doses of fluids are required, why there are ANY gastrointestinal problems reported when all the new formulas dont have any of these requirements/problems and are more effectively absorbed. Im not trying to be defensive with you in any way, in fact, enjoy the debate and am always willing to learn when the opportunity comes along. |
Quote:
"Although creatine [as a monohydrate] has been shown to be a very effective substance, it is important to note that creatine is susceptible to cyclicaztion. It may be that the molecular configuration of creatine with the amino group [NH] gamma to the carboxylic acid, makes it prey to acid hydrolysis. Whatever the rationale, it have been clealy shown that creatine has a propensity to from creatinine, under acidic conditions. In fact, in acidic aqueous solutions, the formation of creatinine from creatine is nearly total and irreversible. From this, one can see that a great deal of creatine can be transformend irreversibly into creatinine, when exposed to the stomach's acidic conditions. Once creatinine is formed, its is no longer of any physiological benefit" [Albion research December, 1999, Vol. 8 No. 2] What this study, and all others done with a Chelate or Malate formula whether using magnesium or malic acid, found is that with the attachment of other molecules to the creatine monohydrate has been proven to be substantially more absorbed into the muscle through the small intestines [in powder form] void the acidic conditions of the stomach, thus, the eliminating the creatinine process ie; intestinal discomfort, loading periods, mass amounts of fluids etc. Like I mentioned to Ross, I enjoy the debate and am always willing to learn more. Thank you for your concern regarding you not being able to find what I was referring to on a site quoted. I will go back to the site and find the quotes I was trying to relay. :) |
All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:45 PM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.